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   From: campbell@neotext.ca   
      
   On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 18:28:57 -0800, ConɀRConɀ wrote:   
      
   > With newer cars, the only reason to let   
   > the car idle is to get the oil circulating, but after 30 seconds that’s   
   > taken care of. Idle any longer than that, and you’re just wasting fuel and   
   > adding to greenhouse gases.   
      
   30 seconds??? Claptrap.  You wanna run the engine without load until   
   the oil hits the valve tappets.  At 70f at sea level in California   
   thirty seconds might be about right.  Up here in the 'Chuck I'll   
   use my ears, thanks.   
      
   Dhu   
      
      
      
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