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   XPost: nf.general   
   From: rotf@lmao.nf   
      
   On 11/01/2014 9:43 AM, cloud dreamer wrote:   
   > On 10/01/2014 8:36 PM, ConɀƦConÉ€ wrote:   
   >> On 1/10/2014 3:23 PM, Carter wrote:   
   >>> Oh, lookie.......another socialist hypocrite who blames   
   >>> everything bad   
   >>> on Harper but never gives credit for the good things.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Oh, lookie..... another poster who contributes nothing to the   
   >> subject of   
   >> the thread, just like to take potshots at those he disagrees   
   >> with.   
   >> Must be a right wing idiot.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > Notice his list of the good things Harper has done?   
   >   
   > - closed Veterans Affairs offices   
   > - slashing veteran benefits to the point that disabled veterans   
   > have to seek shelter at the Y upon release from the armed forces   
   > - made it more difficult for veterans to get what few benefits   
   > are left   
   > - muzzled thousands of scientists   
   > - removed environmental controls on our drinking water   
   > - slowly removing the roadblocks to privatized health care   
   > - destroying centuries of valuable archived data   
   > - ended literacy programs   
   > - ending funding to arts programs   
   > - slowly destroying the social safety net. CPP in trouble again   
   > and ignored.   
   > - poured billions into oil and gas companies while veterans are   
   > homeless   
   > - ignoring native concerns   
   > - still thinks the F-35 is a viable aircraft while other   
   > nations pull out of a program proven to egregiously flawed, if   
   > not dangerous   
   > - G-20 fiasco   
   > - ELECTION FRAUD   
   > - refuses to do anything to combat climate change   
   > - muzzling of MPs. OUR MPs. The men and very few women elected   
   > to this government are NOT permitted to talk to the media   
   > without going through him.   
   > - limits media access to information   
   >   
   > etc etc   
   >   
   >   
   > Yeah....oh wait...he did do one good thing. He got rid of the   
   > penny. There. I'll give him credit for one good thing.   
   >   
   > That's it. The man said we wouldn't recognize Canada when he   
   > was done with it. Yup. Cause when he's done, it'll look like   
   > 1938 Germany.   
      
   As I said before, anyone who plays the Nazi card or compares this   
   country to 1938 Germany is out of reasoned argument and has   
   absolutely no credibility.   
      
   I don't know who wrote the following but he says exactly what I   
   think and says it better than I ever could;   
      
   Virtually every day, I see some message or other on social media   
   that declares Stephen Harper is ruining Canada. I never challenge   
   the assertion being made but sometimes the depth of the anger   
   makes me curious and I message back and ask how he is doing   
   whatever it is they’ve declared. I don’t usually get a response.   
      
   Virtually every government, regardless of political affiliation   
   makes mistakes and does stupid, sometimes unethical things by   
   making decisions that have more to do with politics and benefit   
   to the party than the country but for some reason a significant   
   number of Canadians have concluded that it is Stephen Harper –   
   and only Stephen Harper – who is responsible for the nature of   
   politics and what it is doing to our system of government.   
      
   The accusations are fairly consistent.   
      
   Stephen Harper is a control freak and rules his caucus and his   
   party with an iron fist. In fact, of the main parties in   
   Parliament, it is the Harper Conservatives who have the best   
   record when it comes to allowing party members to vote their   
   conscience. The New Democratic Party has never allowed a free   
   vote in this Parliament and the NDP have voted 100% of the time   
   as a single block. The Liberals aren’t much better having whipped   
   their vote 90% of the time. The Conservatives have allowed a free   
   vote 25% of the time in direct contrast to the record of the   
   other two parties.   
      
   He is accused of masterminding illegal Robocalls but the only   
   parties charged with violations in the 2010 election are   
   progressives. A Liberal has been charged with fraudulent   
   robocalls by Elections Canada and the NDP with violating campaign   
   funding regulations.   
      
   Stephen Harper is undermining democracy by proroguing Parliament   
   and with omnibus bills. I don’t like prorogation anymore than   
   anyone else but the Harper government wasn’t the first nor will   
   it be the last federal or provincial government to prorogue the   
   legislature. As for omnibus bills both Liberal and Conservative   
   governments have introduced them, including the Chretien Liberal   
   government but it seems it is only a problem with progressives   
   when it is Stephen Harper’s government that introduces them.   
      
   Stephen Harper’s government certainly has its share of things for   
   which it should be criticized including misuse of expense   
   accounts by Cabinet Ministers like Bev Oda and it appears by some   
   conservative Senators. But that is hardly unique to the Harper   
   Government either and we all know that is true. On has only to   
   recall ADSCAM to see proof of that.   
      
   The Prime Minister has been accused of being mean-spirited and   
   vicious when it comes to his political opponents and that is true   
   at times but I remember the same kind of negative attack ads   
   being used by the Liberals dating all the way back to Pierre   
   Trudeau’s attack campaign against Joe Clark.   
      
   Recently, Stephen Harper was criticized for making more   
   appointments to the Senate. Does anyone remember John Turner   
   taking a serious hit from Brian Mulroney in an election debate   
   after Pierre Trudeau’s orgy of Senate and Crown Corporation   
   appointments? Mr. Turner who briefly replaced Mr. Trudeau as   
   Prime Minister defended his confirmation of the Trudeau   
   appointments with the statement, “I had no choice,” which   
   resulted in Brian Mulroney’s famous retort, “You had a choice   
   sir. You could have stood up for Canada and said no!”   
      
   Mr. Turner lost that election as the Mulroney Conservatives swept   
   to power with an overwhelming majority.   
      
   Still, there is so much anger directed at Stephen Harper and his   
   government I decided that I might have missed something and   
   decided to stop what I have been working on and go back and do a   
   little more research of my own. I wanted to see if there was some   
   truth to the assertion that it is Stephen Harper and not politics   
   in general that is undermining our country and our democracy.   
      
   Prior to 2006, Canada was governed by the Liberal Party of Canada   
   for 13 years; 11 of which were under Prime Minister Jean Chretien   
   and 2 under the minority government of Paul Martin.   
      
   Quebec, Prince Edward Island, Ontario, British Columbia and New   
   Brunswick, Manitoba and Saskatchewan were all governed primarily   
      
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