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|    Pipeline vs train?    |
|    24 Jan 14 13:20:54    |
      XPost: can.politics, ab.politics, bc.politics       XPost: ont.politics       From: ConsRCons@govt.cda              Debating the best way to do something we shouldn't be doing in the first       place is a sure way to end up in the wrong place. That's what's       happening with the "rail versus pipeline" discussion.              Some say recent rail accidents mean we should build more pipelines to       transport fossil fuels. Others argue that leaks, high construction       costs, opposition and red tape surrounding pipelines are arguments in       favour of using trains.              But the recent spate of rail accidents and pipeline leaks and spills       doesn't provide arguments for one or the other; instead, it indicates       that rapidly increasing oil and gas development and shipping ever       greater amounts, by any method, will mean more accidents, spills,       environmental damage - even death. The answer is to step back from this       reckless plunder and consider ways to reduce our fossil fuel use.               If we were to slow down oil sands development, encourage conservation       and invest in clean energy technology, we could save money, ecosystems       and lives - and we'd still have valuable fossil fuel resources long into       the future, perhaps until we've figured out ways to use them that aren't       so wasteful. We wouldn't need to build more pipelines just to sell oil       and gas as quickly as possible, mostly to foreign markets. We wouldn't       have to send so many unsafe rail tankers through wilderness areas and       places people live.              We may forgo some of the short-term jobs and economic opportunities the       fossil fuel industry provides, but surely we can find better ways to       keep people employed and the economy humming. Gambling, selling guns and       drugs and encouraging people to smoke all create jobs and economic       benefits, too - but we rightly try to limit those activities when the       harms outweigh the benefits.              Both transportation methods come with significant risks. Shipping by       rail leads to more accidents and spills, but pipeline leaks usually       involve much larger volumes. One of the reasons we're seeing more train       accidents involving fossil fuels is the incredible boom in moving these       products by rail. According to the American Association of Railroads,       train shipment of crude oil in the U.S. grew from 9,500 carloads in 2008       to 234,000 in 2012 - almost 25 times as many in only four years! That's       expected to rise to 400,000 this year.              As with pipelines, risks are increased because many rail cars are older       and not built to standards that would reduce the chances of leaks and       explosions when accidents occur. Some in the rail industry argue it       would cost too much to replace all the tank cars as quickly as is needed       to move the ever-increasing volumes of oil. We must improve rail safety       and pipeline infrastructure for the oil and gas that we'll continue to       ship for the foreseeable future, but we must also find ways to transport       less.              The economic arguments for massive oil sands and liquefied natural gas       development and expansion aren't great to begin with - at least with the       way our federal and provincial governments are going about it. Despite a       boom in oil sands growth and production, "Alberta has run consecutive       budget deficits since 2008 and since then has burned through $15 billion       of its sustainability fund," according to an article on the Tyee       website. The Canadian Taxpayers Federation says Alberta's debt is now $7       billion and growing by $11 million daily.              As for jobs, a 2012 report by the Canadian Centre for Policy       Alternatives shows less than one per cent of Canadian workers are       employed in extraction and production of oil, coal and natural gas.       Pipelines and fossil fuel development are not great long-term job       creators, and pale in comparison to employment generated by the       renewable energy sector.              Beyond the danger to the environment and human health, the worst risk       from rapid expansion of oil sands, coal mines and gas fields and the       infrastructure needed to transport the fuels is the carbon emissions       from burning their products - regardless of whether that happens here,       in China or elsewhere. Many climate scientists and energy experts,       including the International Energy Agency, agree that to have any chance       of avoiding catastrophic climate change, we must leave at least       two-thirds of our remaining fossil fuels in the ground.              The question isn't about whether to use rail or pipelines. It's about       how to reduce our need for both.                      ~ By David Suzuki with contributions from David Suzuki Foundation       Senior Editor Ian Hanington              _______________________________________________              “It is horrifying that we have to fight our own government to save the       environment.” ― Ansel Adams              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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