Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"
|    mtl.general    |    Ahh Montreal, home of good strip joints    |    39,416 messages    |
[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]
|    Message 38,032 of 39,416    |
|    =?UTF-8?B?Q29uyYDGpkNvbsmA?= to All    |
|    Justin turns on his own . . . .    |
|    01 Feb 14 17:48:15    |
      XPost: can.politics, ont.politics, bc.politics       From: ConsRCons@govt.cda              No bloody wonder the Harper Cons and the Justin Liberals have been       supporting each other in the House over the years . . . both parties       have a propensity to kill and eat their own.              You BET that Justin caught wind of some more of his Liberal senators       about to be hung over 'senate expenses fraud'. He wants to get upwind       of those investigations before they become his albatross. What a way to       win the respect and admiration of current Liberal MPs and future MP       candidates. The guy with the good hair and nice smile knows how to play       dirty - with his own party members.              ___________________________       Published: January 31, 2014 - THE CANADIAN PRESS                     Liberal MPs seek to remove senators from party constitution              OTTAWA — Liberal members of Parliament are seeking to formally sever       ties with the scandal-plagued Senate by having all references to       senators removed from the party’s constitution.              Liberal leader Justin Trudeau announced this week that he was dumping 32       senators from the Liberal caucus in an effort to eliminate partisanship       and patronage, and return the upper chamber to its original purpose as a       place of sober second thought.              But the Liberal party constitution still lists senators as members of       caucus, as well as automatic delegates at party conventions. It also       says there is supposed to be at least one senator always sitting on a       powerful internal committee that helps develop Liberal election       platforms, though the party said there hasn’t been an active senator on       the committee in some time.              Deputy Liberal leader Ralph Goodale said removing all mentions of       senators from the constitution is an administrative step needed to       fulfill Trudeau’s vision of a less partisan Red Chamber.              To formalize the move, Goodale, national caucus chair Francis       Scarpaleggia, House leader Dominic Leblanc and House whip Judy Foote       have written to Liberal Party president Mike Crawley asking the party’s       national board of directors to start working to amend the constitution.              “The Constitution does identify clear roles and responsibilities for       caucus which need to be adjusted to reflect our new caucus reality,”       reads the letter, which was obtained from Trudeau’s office.              “We urge the National Board to develop a process for amending the       (Liberal Party of Canada) Constitution to remove reference to Senators       and to operate immediately in a manner that is consistent with only       elected Members of Parliament being part of the LPC National Caucus.”              The NDP accused Trudeau Friday of breaking his party’s own rules by       unilaterally excluding senators from caucus without getting the Liberal       constitution changed first.              Any constitutional amendment requires support from two-thirds of       delegates at a national convention.              “I think this shows that the Liberal leader drew this up on the back of       a napkin,” said NDP deputy leader Nathan Cullen. “What he suggested on       Wednesday was illegal in his constitution. God help us if he ever has to       interpret the Canadian constitution.”              But Liberals rushed to Trudeau’s defence, insisting the Liberal leader       does indeed have the power to decide who is part of caucus.              “The constitution is clear in terms of the leader is the one that       determines who is in caucus,” said Crawley. “It’s the leader’s purview       to determine what comprises caucus.”              Either way, it could be several years before the change is formalized.              Any amendment requires support from two-thirds of delegates at a       national convention, and while a convention will be held in Montreal in       three weeks, the deadline for submitting proposed constitutional       amendments has already passed.              Crawley said the board of directors will meet next week to discuss       proposed amendments, and there are mechanisms in place to hold an       emergency convention and amend the constitution, as happened following       the 2011 federal election when the party agreed to put off the       leadership race by two years.              But he didn’t believe there was a sense of urgency, and that the party       could wait for the next Liberal convention in 2016.              “Can the party in practice operate in a way that’s aligned with the       decision that’s been made, and constitutionalize those changes at the       next convention?” he said. “My sense going in is that we will be able to       do that, but we need to confirm that.”              Confusion had followed Trudeau’s announcement Wednesday that he was       ejecting 32 senators from the party caucus.              The senators rebranded themselves the Senate Liberal caucus, and said       Trudeau couldn’t stop them from calling themselves Liberals because he       couldn’t strip them of their party membership.              Removing references to the senators from the constitution means they       will remain members, but without any special standing in the party.              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~               “It is horrifying that we have to fight our own government to save       the environment.” ― Ansel Adams              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]
(c) 1994, bbs@darkrealms.ca