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   XPost: ab.politics   
   From: {~_~}@nyet.ca   
      
   >> Guns are not allowed in Canada 'for trespassers', ya dumb rabbit.   
   >> They're not even allowed - with very few exceptions - 'for personal   
   >> protection'.   
   >>   
   >> You might want to reread the Canadian laws, gun owner.  Because you seem   
   >> as screwed in the head as most gun owners who become criminal gun users.   
   >>   
   >> And you might also want to ask what people in more crowded countries,   
   >> where guns are just not allowed at all.  They don't have the 'privilege'   
   >> of threatening someone's life over trespass.   
   >> Time Canada got smarter.  Certainly it's too late for the Americans.   
      
      
   Kim Dobranski aka  Chom Noamsky wrote:   
   > Winners never lie and liars never win, that's why you've been holding   
   > the shit end of the stick all you life, Kewen.   
      
     . . .  Except when the stick that you hold has shit on both ends of   
   it, Dobranski.   
   I'll say it again, because you're more than a bit thick -  "Guns are not   
   allowed in Canada 'for trespassers', ya dumb rabbit."   
      
      
   The laws supports using   
   > as much force as is necessary to remove someone from your property,   
   > whether that be with a gun or a nerf hammer:   
      
   See?  That's where you gun owners get into real trouble . . .  you   
   inject your own little 'terms' into the law and think that makes you a   
   law-abiding citizen.   
   Calling the police would be considered 'no more force than is   
   necessary'.  Shooting or threatening someone with a firearm would not.   
      
   And on top of the requirement of 'no more force than is necessary',   
   there is the prerequisite requirement for signs or other indicators that   
   someone doesn't want anyone on their property.   
      
      
   > Section 41: Defence of house or real property   
   >   
   > 41. (1) Every one who is in peaceable possession of a dwelling-house or   
   > real property, and every one lawfully assisting him or acting under his   
   > authority, is justified in using force to prevent any person from   
   > trespassing on the dwelling-house or real property, or to remove a   
   > trespasser therefrom, if he uses no more force than is necessary.   
      
      
   For the intruder's guilt to be ascertained, intent has to be proven;   
   hence, trespassing signs are legally enforced to indicate boundaries. In   
   land law or real estate law, trespassing constitutes two categories:   
   criminal trespassing or civil trespassing.  Police and property rangers   
   control the jurisdiction of criminal trespassing, whereas civil   
   trespassing responsibility falls to the landowner to lodge a legal   
   proceeding against the perceived trespasser.   
      
      
   Canadian Trespass Act of 1996   
      
        No Trespassing	   
      
   According to the Canadian Trespass Act of 1996, a person is not guilty   
   of trespassing if he has received the consent of the landowner, the   
   consent of another organization or color of right, which means a legal   
   statement revealing the genuine mistaken view of the accused or   
   affirming that occupation on another person's property is legal.   
   However, the trespasser faces certain conviction if the land is enclosed   
   by fencing, walls or any other physical barrier, if the trespasser has a   
   positive denial of entry from the landowner, if the trespasser continues   
   to trespass after notification from police, or if the trespasser   
   re-enters the premises after clear prohibition. The landowner bears the   
   responsibility of erecting proper fencing around private property.   
      
   See?  No guns.  Police, rangers for criminal trespass.  Legal action in   
   courts if there is no criminal intent on the part of the trespasser.   
      
   You need to have you firearms taken away, Dobranski.  You're a stupid   
   gun owner.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)