XPost: can.politics, ont.politics, bc.politics   
   From: gregcarrsober@gmail.com   
      
   On 01/06/2014 5:26 PM, =_= wrote:   
   > On 6/1/2014 9:17 AM, Greg Carr wrote:   
   >> 20,000,000 tax payers paying $60 each for the bloated CBC equals 1.2   
   >> billion dollars and the actual subsidy is 1.3 billion dollars.   
   >   
   >   
   > You do math like every other right wing idiot.   
   > 1. Canada doesn't have "20 million taxpayers". You're a perfect example.   
   > 2. The cost per taxpayer - latest figures being for 2012 - is between   
   > $29 and 34 per taxpayer.   
   > 3. And Canadians - those of us who aren't right wing nut jobs - love CBC   
   > for its honest, unbiased and well-investigated reporting.   
   >   
   > Here are just a few of them:   
   >   
   >   
   > Published on Wed Mar 28 2012   
   >   
   > Hands off our sacred CBC   
   > Death by a thousand cuts, March 24   
   >   
   >   
   > The CBC exists to improve national unity and to foster intelligent   
   > debate among all Canadians. Surely we don’t want the U.S. shock-radio   
   > model, complete with Rush Limbaugh, Howard Stern, etc.   
   >   
   > At $34 per person, that’s less than a case of beer. Cancel the CBC?   
   > Let’s cancel Christmas. It costs much more.   
   >   
   > William Whitehouse, Sudbury   
      
   And he gets this figure from where the math doesn't work. Canada has   
   around 20,000,000 tax payers $34 a person would work out to 680 million   
   far short of the failed CBC's 1.3 billion subsidy. It doesn't need a   
   death of a thousand cuts it needs  coup de grace to the head.   
   >   
   > Thanks for the interesting and informative story on the CBC — in   
   > particular the TV part. Concerning the “thousand cuts,” the CBC seems to   
   > have weathered the storm quite well.   
   >   
   > I have watched the CBC now for some 52 years, and I must say today’s   
   > version — discounting the technological improvements — is a better   
   > medium than ever. There was, indisputably, fat to cut; at times, it   
   > became rather bureaucratic and staid.   
   >   
   > There might even be room for some more fine-tuning there. Why, for   
   > example, do we have two CBC news channels — the regular CBC one and the   
   > news channel? And why repeat the evening news several times a night? If   
   > the incremental cost is marginal, I can see an argument for it. But   
   > surely, it cannot be zero.   
   >   
   > I enjoy “The Fifth Estate” and other in-depth news reports and   
   > documentaries. These you would not likely find on other Canadian   
   > independent media, and certainly not in U.S. media. Programs such as “At   
   > Issue” are both entertaining and informative; I don’t believe it is   
   > “cheapening” the newshour at all, and I see no reason why they should   
   > not be retained.   
   >   
   > I understand the importance of advertising revenue, but there could be   
   > an argument for getting rid of ads and charging a viewer’s subscription   
   > fee. The network would be smaller, but it would avoid overlapping   
   > broadcasts, which can easily be obtained from U.S. and other Canadian   
   > networks.   
      
   No argument from me. Make the CBC an optional pay tv program and watch   
   it die.   
   >   
   > It would rekindle the vision of Graham Spry, and again make the CBC a   
   > truly Canadian broadcasting entity, promoting Canadian values and   
   > interests.   
   >   
   > The references to Europe’s per capita public funding of broadcasters is   
   > a little misleading, as the broadcasting environment is somewhat   
   > different from North America. Norway, with the highest per capita   
   > funding, used to be a monopoly until recently, and the annual licensing   
   > fee is compulsory both for radio and TV.   
   >   
   > Also Norwegians did not have access to foreign TV, though there is some   
   > private broadcasting now, and with the Internet, there are much more   
   > choices. Some 94 per cent of Norwegian broadcasting (NRK) funding comes   
   > from a mandatory annual licensing fees charged to each person in   
   > possession of a TV. The remainder comes from commercial activities such   
   > as program and DVD sales, spin-off products and certain types of   
   > sponsorship.   
   >   
   > Perhaps the time has come to rethink the CBC’s objectives, but   
   > privatizing it is not the way.   
   >   
   > Sigmund Roseth, Mississauga   
   >   
   >   
   > Your review of public broadcasting costs for many countries worldwide   
   > was certainly interesting and useful. It’s amazing that Canada comes in   
   > with the third-lowest cost per capita at $34 and, of course, it’s   
   > understandable that the U.S. is lowest at $4.   
      
   Fine cut the CBC subsidy to 80 million a year $4 per taxpayer.   
   >   
   > I was disappointed, however, to find that the chart neglected to give   
   > comparative figures for any communist country. It would be insightful if   
   > we could compare the costs in China, Cuba and Russia with the others.   
   >   
   > George Dunbar, Toronto   
   >   
   >   
   > I have been a CBC fanatic for more than 45 years and I don’t watch   
   > television. For the first time, a major article about CBC actually   
   > mentioned that there was a radio component.   
   >   
   > Unlike the television side of CBC, there is no national public radio   
   > network or system that provides commercial free, high quality Canadian   
   > news, documentaries, comedy, music and public affairs on an in-depth basis.   
   >   
   > Perhaps, it is time to cut the TV component and concentrate on CBC   
   > Radio. I can’t imagine a day without it. We voters will be watching the   
   > budget closely.   
   >   
   > Jim Sanders, Guelph   
   >   
   >   
   > Your article claims CBC Radio doesn’t air advertisements. This is an   
   > erroneous assertion that the corporation likes to repeat. CBC Radio is   
   > replete with ads. It’s just that the corporation chooses to give it a   
   > different name, such as promotions for the corporation.   
   >   
   > All day long the CBC Radio listener is hammered by the ridiculous,   
   > breathy voice of a male Marilyn Monroe incessantly reminding us “CBC . .   
   > . Where Canada Lives,” and other sonic irritations.   
   >   
   > The corporation chooses to misunderstand why listeners object to ads. We   
   > don’t like the interruption, the intrusion into programming, whether   
   > it’s to tell us a hamburger or where Canada lives. And, please, give a   
   > much-deserved rest to Marilyn: the poor woman died 50 years ago.   
   >   
   > Jerry Tutunjian, Toronto   
   >   
   >   
   > Before dispensing with the CBC, I suggest we abolish the Senate first.   
   > At least the CBC serves a purpose.   
   >   
   > Francine Dick, Toronto   
      
   CBC the all Ontario network. Let it die.   
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