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|    Gene Poole to All    |
|    Surprise: Problems with Widely Touted An    |
|    12 Sep 18 04:14:05    |
      XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution, alt.politics.guns, alt.california       XPost: sac.general       From: gp@dont-email.me              “I am not interested in giving any serious thought to John Lott       or his claims.”              Those are the words of University of Alabama associate professor       Adam Lankford in response to Fox News after economist John Lott       called Lankford’s highly publicized study into question.              Lankford’s study was published in 2016 but was touted by       President Obama and a fawning media anxious for any “evidence”       that gun ownership is somehow evil even before it was officially       published. Lankford’s anti-gun perspective is evident early on       in his paper. His eighth paragraph starts, “Less positive may be       the fact that, according to a comparative study of 178       countries, the United States ranks first in gun ownership…”              Despite all of the attention it received, Lankford’s study is       troublesome. He claims to have found that 31% of global mass       shooters attacked in the United States between 1966 and 2012. He       states that the U.S. suffered 90 offenders during this period       while only four other countries had more than nine offenders.       Obama took this alleged finding and ran with it, claiming “The       one thing we do know is that we have a pattern now of mass       shooting in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in       the world.”              The problem is that Lankford’s study is lazy and sloppy, if not       deliberately limited. He used the New York Police Department’s       2012 Active Shooter report supplemented with the FBI’s 2014       Active Shooter Report and “data gathered on incidents from other       countries.” Lankford used the same methodology as the NYPD to       gather additional information.              The NYPD only used open-source material – i.e., Google. They       didn’t use subscription-based research services like LexisNexis,       government databases, or any of the resources available to       professors at well-funded world class universities. The “NYPD       limited its internet searches to English-language sites,       creating a strong sampling bias against international       incidents.” That methodology works for the NYPD’s purpose of       developing recommendations for risk mitigation but it doesn’t       work for a cross-national study because most of the world speaks       a language other than English. The FBI 2014 Active Shooter       report was limited to incidents in the United States.              President Obama and others eager for anything that casts gun       ownership as fundamentally dangerous took Lankford’s 31% claim       at face value. Other researchers, academics, and journalists who       questioned Lankford’s work – or even asked to see his data –       were rebuffed by the UA professor.              John Lott thought that 31% seemed high, so he asked if Lankford       would share his dataset – a common courtesy among academics and       researchers. Lankford refused. Repeatedly. Lankford also refused       to explain how he measured (or counted) mass shootings. Lankford       refused to tell journalists how he collected his data, despite       his claim that he found complete data for 171 countries –       somehow without using foreign language sources. Journalists at       Real Clear Politics asked Lankford questions about his       methodology and for access to his raw data; he refused.       Lankford’s paper does not include a list of the number of       shooters in each country, only providing the totals for five       countries including the United States.              So Lott built his own dataset using the University of Maryland       Global Terrorism Database, Nexis, and web searches for mass       shootings. Lott hired people who spoke foreign languages to help       with this effort. Unlike Lankford, Lott provides the search       terms he used as well as a list of the cases in his dataset.       Lott has been as transparent as possible with his study and even       acknowledges that his monumental effort likely undercounts       shootings in foreign countries due to current and historical       news coverage of such events in the developing world. Lott       looked at the years 1998-2012, likely to ensure the availability       of better data.              Lott found at least fifteen times more mass public shooters than       Lankford in less than a third the number of years (1998-2012).       Lankford claimed to find 292 mass public shooters over 47 years       while Lott found more than 10,000 such shooters around the world       in the last 15 years. Professor Carl Moody at the College of       William & Mary confirmed Lott’s counts for The Washington Times       and added, “By the way, anybody can do this. The GTD database is       free and available to all.”              Lott’s most important finding is that 1.43% of mass public       shooters attacked in the United States. That is starkly       different than Lankford’s 31% claim. Lott extended his work to       the number of attacks and found that 2.88% of mass public       shootings between 1998 and 2012 were in the United States.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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