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|    Gene Poole to All    |
|    To Limit the Second Amendment, New York     |
|    12 Sep 18 09:18:30    |
      XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution, alt.politics.guns, alt.california       XPost: sac.general       From: gp@dont-email.me              The state has no right to threaten financial institutions that       do business with the NRA.       Imagine the following scenario. Imagine the media response.              By October, the governor of Texas was fed up. A well-funded ten-       month campaign by Everytown for Gun Safety designed to       stigmatize gun ownership was causing support for gun rights to       measurably decline. Called “You afraid?” the campaign mocked men       and women who carried weapons to grocery stores or restaurants.       An associated “courage” campaign asked mothers to hand back       their carry licenses, and while most didn’t, the dozens who did       received international media attention.              Then, two weeks before Halloween, a gunman opened fire in a       Houston Walmart, and no one responded for nine agonizing minutes       until police arrived. This was Texas. The store wasn’t a gun-       free zone — yet not a single armed citizen was available to       intervene.              The governor was furious. In public comments, he blasted       Everytown, declaring — in no uncertain terms — that “gun-       controllers have no place in Texas. Because that’s not who we       are.” But words mean nothing without action, and the state of       Texas acted. The governor directed state regulators to “urge       insurers and bankers statewide to determine whether any       relationship they may have with Everytown or similar       organizations sends the wrong message to their clients and their       communities who often look to them for guidance and support.”              Regulators responded, issuing “guidance letters” directed at the       chief executive officers, or equivalents, of all Texas licensed       financial institutions and all insurers doing business in Texas.       The letters urged recipients to sever ties with Everytown and       other “gun controller organizations.” The letters went well       beyond a mere political exhortation and invoked the private       corporations’ “risk management” obligations and their       obligations to consider “reputational risks.”              State regulators began investigating Everytown’s business       transactions in the state and coerced key vendors into consent       decrees that not only punished allegedly unlawful activity but       banned those vendors from engaging in entirely lawful business       relationships with the gun-control organization. As state       regulators moved, other commercial entities backed away — ending       longstanding business relationships with Everytown.              Let me ask a simple question. If Texas acted like this — if it       used state financial regulators to issue warning letters to       institutions doing business with an organization unquestionably       engaged in constitutionally protected advocacy — do you think       for one moment that America’s mainstream media would remain       silent, or speak up mainly to chuckle at Everytown’s financial       predicament? Do you think for one moment that America’s leading       progressives wouldn’t sense an immediate threat to free speech?              Yet the scenario above is playing out today, in a different       state, with a different target. New York’s Andrew Cuomo is       engaging in a deliberate campaign to use state power to drive       the NRA out of business. It’s using a combination of consent       decrees and warning letters directed at financial institutions       to coerce them into cutting of business relationships with the       NRA.              Cuomo’s intentions aren’t hidden. He’s on a crusade. “If I could       have put the NRA out of business, I would have done it 20 years       ago,” he said earlier this week. He followed up with this pithy       statement: “I’m tired of hearing the politicians say, we’ll       remember them in our thoughts and prayers. If the NRA goes away,       I’ll remember the NRA in my thoughts and prayers.”              Clever. But when statements like this are accompanied by state       action, there’s another word that applies — unconstitutional.              New York’s lawyers argue that the state’s letters represent       nothing more than government speech. The NRA and the state are       engaged in nothing more than a frank exchange of ideas. But       while the government does have broad power to engage in its own       advocacy, that power has its limits. As the Second Circuit has       recognized, there is a difference between “permissible       expressions of personal opinion and implied threats to employ       coercive State power to stifle protected speech.” When “comments       of a government official can reasonably be interpreted as       intimating that some form of punishment or adverse regulatory       action will follow the failure to accede to the official’s       request,” a First Amendment claim exists.              It simply strains credulity to argue that a financial       regulator’s letter to the financial institutions it closely       regulates urging those institutions to consider “risk              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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