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|    10 Mar 19 03:35:15    |
      XPost: alt.politics.obama, sac.politics, alt.politics.socialism.democratic       XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh       From: bwoodward@fakenews.cnn.com              2020 presidential hopeful Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand claimed in an       interview this week that, if done using market forces, there is       “nothing socialist” about the Green New Deal -- a proposed vast       government-led overhaul of the nation’s economy and energy use.              Gillibrand made the comments in an interview with New York Magazine,       where she was asked about her support for the controversial plan that       has shot into Democratic mainstream thought after spending years as a       fringe, far-left idea.              GILLIBRAND ON CALL TO TEAR DOWN BORDER WALL: 'IF IT MAKES SENSE, I       COULD SUPPORT IT'              “I love the framework of the Green New Deal, and the reason is this: I       believe that global climate change is the greatest threat to humanity       that exists in our generation, and it needs a bold and powerful set of       solutions to actually attack it, and to solve it,” she said.              The non-binding resolution was introduced last month by Rep.       Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., and Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass., for       what Ocasio-Cortez called a “wartime-level, just economic mobilization       plan to get to 100 percent renewable energy ASAP!”              The resolution includes calls for “net-zero greenhouse gas emissions       through a fair and just transition for all communities and workers;”       infrastructure investment; guarantees of clean water, healthy food and       sustainable environment; and a curiously undefined “access to nature.”              It envisions a 10-year mobilization that would upgrade and expand       power sources and power grids to meet 100 percent of power demand via       clean energy sources, as well as overhauling transport systems to       “eliminate pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from the       transportation sector as much as is technologically feasible.”              On the economic front, the plan bundled together a host of liberal       wish-list items. Among the most ambitious components is a plan to       guarantee a job “with a family-sustaining wage, adequate family and       medical leave, paid vacations, and retirement security to all people       of the United States.” The plan also calls to provide health care,       affordable housing, economic security and access to clean water, air,       food and nature to all “people of the United States.”              The rollout was marred, however, by the release of two FAQs that       suggested the plan would aim to make air travel obsolete, upgrade or       replace every building in America to ensure energy efficiency and give       economic security even to those "unwilling" to work.              A new report estimates the Green New Deal would cost $93 trillionVideo       Republicans have called the proposal a "socialist wish list" that       would kill at least 1 million jobs and disrupt global trade -- while       costing trillions.              But Gillibrand isn’t so sure, telling the magazine that she would add       a “price on carbon” to the deal, arguing this could spur innovation.              BLOOMBERG DINGS GREEN NEW DEAL AS HE TAKES HIMSELF OUT OF THE 2020       FRAY              “The best thing about putting a price on carbon is you allow the       market to work as it’s intended to work,” she said. “People will       innovate because they want to save money, and they want to have an       economic advantage.”              “Let’s use market forces to create investment and, you know, there’s       nothing socialist about it,” she said. “You’re saying we need to do       this to protect humanity.”              The call by Gillibrand to inject some form of market-based activity to       the plan may be an effort to make it more palatable to moderates. She       recently said she believes she could get Republicans to vote for the       deal.                     Patrick Moore       @EcoSenseNow        @AOC       Pompous little twit. You don’t have a plan to grow food for 8 billion       people without fossil fuels, or get food into the cities. Horses? If       fossil fuels were banned every tree in the world would be cut down for       fuel for cooking and heating. You would bring about mass death.              6,453       5:29 PM - Mar 2, 2019       Twitter Ads info and privacy       3,757 people are talking about this       The ambitious plan has seen opposition not just from conservatives,       but even some environmentalists. Patrick Moore, the co-founder of the       environmentalist group Greenpeace, ripped into Ocasio-Cortez over the       weekend as a “pompous little twit,” saying the Green New Deal plan       she’s advocating is “completely crazy.”              “If fossil fuels were banned every tree in the world would be cut down       for fuel for cooking and heating," Moore said in a tweet Saturday       directed at Ocasio-Cortez. “You would bring about mass death.”              https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gillibrand-claims-theres-nothin       -socialist-about-the-green-new-deal              --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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