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   Rob Woodward to All   
   Dipshit Gillibrand claims ‘there’s nothi   
   10 Mar 19 03:35:15   
   
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   From: bwoodward@fakenews.cnn.com   
      
   2020 presidential hopeful Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand claimed in an   
   interview this week that, if done using market forces, there is   
   “nothing socialist” about the Green New Deal -- a proposed vast   
   government-led overhaul of the nation’s economy and energy use.   
      
   Gillibrand made the comments in an interview with New York Magazine,   
   where she was asked about her support for the controversial plan that   
   has shot into Democratic mainstream thought after spending years as a   
   fringe, far-left idea.   
      
   GILLIBRAND ON CALL TO TEAR DOWN BORDER WALL: 'IF IT MAKES SENSE, I   
   COULD SUPPORT IT'   
      
   “I love the framework of the Green New Deal, and the reason is this: I   
   believe that global climate change is the greatest threat to humanity   
   that exists in our generation, and it needs a bold and powerful set of   
   solutions to actually attack it, and to solve it,” she said.   
      
   The non-binding resolution was introduced last month by Rep.   
   Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., and Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass., for   
   what Ocasio-Cortez called a “wartime-level, just economic mobilization   
   plan to get to 100 percent renewable energy ASAP!”   
      
   The resolution includes calls for “net-zero greenhouse gas emissions   
   through a fair and just transition for all communities and workers;”   
   infrastructure investment; guarantees of clean water, healthy food and   
   sustainable environment; and a curiously undefined “access to nature.”   
      
   It envisions a 10-year mobilization that would upgrade and expand   
   power sources and power grids to meet 100 percent of power demand via   
   clean energy sources, as well as overhauling transport systems to   
   “eliminate pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from the   
   transportation sector as much as is technologically feasible.”   
      
   On the economic front, the plan bundled together a host of liberal   
   wish-list items. Among the most ambitious components is a plan to   
   guarantee a job “with a family-sustaining wage, adequate family and   
   medical leave, paid vacations, and retirement security to all people   
   of the United States.” The plan also calls to provide health care,   
   affordable housing, economic security and access to clean water, air,   
   food and nature to all “people of the United States.”   
      
   The rollout was marred, however, by the release of two FAQs that   
   suggested the plan would aim to make air travel obsolete, upgrade or   
   replace every building in America to ensure energy efficiency and give   
   economic security even to those "unwilling" to work.   
      
   A new report estimates the Green New Deal would cost $93 trillionVideo   
   Republicans have called the proposal a "socialist wish list" that   
   would kill at least 1 million jobs and disrupt global trade -- while   
   costing trillions.   
      
   But Gillibrand isn’t so sure, telling the magazine that she would add   
   a “price on carbon” to the deal, arguing this could spur innovation.   
      
   BLOOMBERG DINGS GREEN NEW DEAL AS HE TAKES HIMSELF OUT OF THE 2020   
   FRAY   
      
   “The best thing about putting a price on carbon is you allow the   
   market to work as it’s intended to work,” she said. “People will   
   innovate because they want to save money, and they want to have an   
   economic advantage.”   
      
   “Let’s use market forces to create investment and, you know, there’s   
   nothing socialist about it,” she said. “You’re saying we need to do   
   this to protect humanity.”   
      
   The call by Gillibrand to inject some form of market-based activity to   
   the plan may be an effort to make it more palatable to moderates. She   
   recently said she believes she could get Republicans to vote for the   
   deal.   
      
      
   Patrick Moore   
   @EcoSenseNow   
    @AOC   
   Pompous little twit. You don’t have a plan to grow food for 8 billion   
   people without fossil fuels, or get food into the cities. Horses? If   
   fossil fuels were banned every tree in the world would be cut down for   
   fuel for cooking and heating. You would bring about mass death.   
      
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   The ambitious plan has seen opposition not just from conservatives,   
   but even some environmentalists. Patrick Moore, the co-founder of the   
   environmentalist group Greenpeace, ripped into Ocasio-Cortez over the   
   weekend as a “pompous little twit,” saying the Green New Deal plan   
   she’s advocating is “completely crazy.”   
      
   “If fossil fuels were banned every tree in the world would be cut down   
   for fuel for cooking and heating," Moore said in a tweet Saturday   
   directed at Ocasio-Cortez. “You would bring about mass death.”   
      
   https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gillibrand-claims-theres-nothin   
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