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   Intelligent Party to All   
   New Debt And Rent Ought Not Be Subject T   
   29 May 20 23:44:36   
   
   XPost: sac.politics, ca.general, alt.california   
   XPost: ca.politics, ny.politics   
   From: Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com   
      
   New debt and rent ought not be subject to such forbearance.   
      
      
   Every man, woman, and child, also deserve, desire, and demand $1,250 per month   
   during COVID, and for one year after COVID is over.   
      
   The above is necessary that the American people, and the U.S. economy survive.   
      
   Dependents ought to get their payments directly, akin to child support.   
      
   This will be $5 Trillion into the National Debt, yearly.  This does not   
   matter.  A   
   Fiscal Expansion is in order.  When Congress sells the Bonds to spend, it   
   would be   
   effecting a countering equal monetary contraction.  But the Fed will buy the   
   bonds, and lend to Congress, keeping the interest rate low.  The other side of   
   an   
   expansion (fiscal or monetary), is inflation, which is not the problem/concern   
   right now.  An economic boom, and coincident inflation of the Consumer Price   
   Index   
   and Stock Market (inflation of Price to Book Values), is not our concern right   
   now.   
      
   This ought merely be an "Economic Pause," and not become a Great Depression.    
   It's   
   not going to be a Recession.  It's going to be one of the other two.  We want   
   an   
   Economic Pause.  We don't want a Great Depression.   
      
   A clear and present danger is obvious.  COVID has claimed 100,000 lives in 2   
   months.  This is annualized to 600,000 deaths per year, if not more.  This is   
   more   
   than the 400,000 who die to cigarettes yearly.   
      
   A clear and present danger is obvious.  Congress cannot buy the Stealth Bomber,   
   and let they U.S. economy collapse and the American people loose their homes   
   and   
   livelihoods, and say it has any business protecting America.   
      
   COVID may last several more months, or persist into perpetuity until a vaccine   
   or   
   cure comes to be.  This is likely to be 1-2 years.  For analysis, it all   
   depends   
   on how many days it takes to recover and stop being contagious.  The quarantine   
   either reduces the number of cases daily, if the daily infection rate is lower   
   than the daily recovery rate, or it holds them steady, or merely tempers the   
   spread if the daily infection rate is higher than the daily recovery rate.  The   
   U.S. total daily infection rate is about 2% (% New Cases of Active Cases =   
   20,000   
   new cases daily on 1,000,000 active cases).  Before the quarantine the daily   
   infection rate was 25%.  If it takes 30 days to recover, the recovery rate is   
   100/30 = 3.33%.  Texas' infection rate is currently about 6%.  The number of   
   cases   
   will only grow.  New York's infection rate is currently about .60%, the disease   
   will be beat in several or many months.  And California, and the U.S. as a   
   whole's   
   infection rate are both currently about 2%, - closer to holding the total   
   number   
   of Active Cases steady, but ultimately declining.  If it takes 60 days to   
   recover,   
   the daily recovery rate is 100/60 = 1.67%, and we're more screwed.  If it   
   takes 15   
   days to recover, the daily recovery rate is 100/15 = 6.67%, and even Texas may   
   prevail.  We haven't seen so many reported recoveries.  Greenland was 100%   
   clean   
   of the virus as 11 cases recovered 6 weeks ago.  On Saturday, May 23rd   
   Greenland   
   just got one new case.  Del Norte County, California's most North West County   
   had   
   all 4 cases recovered one week ago, and in the last week had 15 new cases.   
      
   Let me remind everyone, that without the quarantine but everyone just doing   
   their   
   normal activities, the Daily New Infection Rate was 25%.  At 25%, in three days   
   the total number of cases doubles.  In seven days it quintuples.  In 10 days   
   it is   
   times 10.  In 20 days, times 100, in 30 days times 1,000, and in two months   
   times   
   1,000,000, or terminal.  333 cases becomes 333,000,000 cases in 60 days at a   
   25%   
   daily infection rate, and this is what was going on before the Quarantine.  We   
   don't want to return to anything like this and overwhelm our hospitals.  Even   
   with   
   more personal protective equipment, testing, and awareness, an increase to   
   10%-15%   
   with States supposedly opening would be disastrous.  It's time for Congress to   
   step in.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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