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|    Consciousness of guilt': Fatal NYC shove    |
|    01 Apr 22 19:19:07    |
      XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics       From: tucker@fox.com              The woman accused of pushing an 87-year-old New York City voice coach to       her death may have helped prosecutors by fleeing and deleting her social       media and wedding website accounts, legal experts say.              "Any time a suspect flees, you can expect that prosecutors may try to       introduce that as what’s called 'consciousness of guilt,'" said Danny       Cevallos, an NBC and MSNBC legal analyst.              She could have turned herself in "the moment that she found out that this       was a news story" and that the push resulted in death, Cevallos said. "But       she didn’t."              Lauren Pazienza, 26, who was charged Tuesday with manslaughter in the       first degree and assault in the first degree, is accused of shoving       Barbara Maier Gustern in the Chelsea neighborhood of Manhattan on March       10.              A witness told police that Pazienza cursed at and shoved Gustern "for no       apparent reason," according to prosecutors, and that Gustern hit her head       on the pavement.              Gustern died days later of blunt force trauma to the head, the city       medical examiner's office said.              Cevallos said Pazienza could face greater charges, like second-degree       murder, which includes "the death of another person under the conditions       that showed that you had a depraved indifference for human life,"       according to New York penal law.              "It could be the case that prosecutors charged her with manslaughter just       to have a reason to bring her in," he said. "They may, upon further review       of their evidence, which may include video, decide that more serious       charges are warranted."              The defense would be likely argue to that "this particular shove was not       something that created a depraved indifference for human life," Cevallos       said. "Sometimes a shove can be just a shove."              Manhattan Assistant District Attorney Justin McNabney said that after the       shove, Pazienza walked away from the scene briskly, leaving Gustern on the       ground, bleeding profusely from her head.              But then she stayed in the area, said McNabney, who said she got into a       physical altercation with her fiancé minutes after the attack and then       waited nearby long enough to see the ambulance arrive for Gustern.              Pazienza and her fiancé were next seen north of Chelsea, at Penn Station,       where they got on the subway to Astoria, Queens, McNabney said.              Holed up in her Shore Towers condominium unit, Pazienza went about       deleting every one of her social media profiles, including her LinkedIn       account and her account on Zola, a site for engaged couples to post their       registries and wedding details.              Pazienza and her fiancé were scheduled to be married in June, McNabney's       office said.              The day after Gustern died, as more media attention was brought to the       case, Pazienza fled to her parents' house on Long Island, McNabney said.       She then stopped using her cellphone and eventually hid it at her aunt's       house.              People who helped Pazienza flee and hide could be charged with hindering       prosecution under state law, Cevallos said.              A tipster eventually recognized widely distributed security camera       pictures of Pazienza and alerted authorities, McNabney said.              Police detectives arrived at Pazienza's parents' house in Suffolk County       on Monday. Her father said Pazienza was not home, according to McNabney.       Her lawyer arranged for her to turn herself in Tuesday.              Brad Bailey, a former state prosecutor in New York City and Massachusetts       who also worked as an assistant U.S. attorney in Boston, said Pazienza’s       parents could face legal jeopardy if they knowingly shielded her from       authorities.              “Harboring a known suspect certainly could result in accessorial liability       charges — accessory after the fact, which is a felony in New York,” Bailey       said. “There could be exposure there.”              Bailey also said that if Pazienza faces a trial, prosecutors could ask a       judge to determine whether a jury should hear a "consciousness of guilt"       argument. Such an argument could factor into with whether prosecutors       prove charges against her, Bailey said.              Arguments can be made on both sides of the legal aisle about Pazienza's       guilt or innocence when her decision to delete her online presence is       factored in, he said.              "The defense would argue vociferously that people purge, scrub, clean,       delete contents of personal devices all the time," Bailey said. "The       prosecution would say, 'Under these circumstances, we have evidence that       it was commenced with her allegedly going into hiding.'"              Prosecutors requested that Pazienza be held without bail, but Manhattan       Criminal Court Judge Michael Gaffey set bail at $500,000 cash or $1       million insurance company bond. Pazienza is due in court Friday.              Pazienza's attorney, Arthur Aidala, said in a statement Tuesday that his       team was "pleased that the Court granted bail to Ms. Pazienza and we       expect her to be released in the coming days."              Aidala said his client has no criminal history. The Queens and Manhattan       district attorney's offices said Pazienza had no record in their       districts. The Suffolk County District Attorney's Office did not       immediately respond to a request for comment.              "We anxiously await the production of the discovery material by the       District Attorney’s Office. The Pazienza family joins the rest of the City       in grieving the loss of Barbara Gustern," Aidala said.              Gustern died March 15. AJ Gustern, her grandson, who said she suffered       traumatic brain damage, told NBC New York that “she was a force of nature”       and a “tiny ball of energy building community everywhere she went.”              “To whoever did do this, I’m still praying for you, and the karmic wave       that you’ve taken on is incredible,” he told the station. “So God help       you.”              Gustern was fondly regarded in New York’s theater community. She coached       the cast of the 2019 Broadway revival of the musical “Oklahoma!,” The New       York Times reported. She also once coached rock singer Debbie Harry of the       group Blondie.              https://news.yahoo.com/consciousness-guilt-fatal-nyc-shove-225010437.html              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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