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   Message 91,245 of 92,003   
   Hochul's Horrible Mess to All   
   Re: Mentally ill Democrat homeless New Y   
   06 May 23 10:49:51   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.mental-health, sac.politics   
   XPost: talk.politics.guns   
   From: hochuls.horrible.mess@nytimes.com   
      
   On 15 Dec 2021, "Demented Joe Defeats tRUMP Again!"    
   posted some news:spdod8$cuo$1@news.dns-netz.com:   
      
   > Bradley K. Sherman wrote   
   >   
   >> |   
   >> | Hochul is a stupid cunt.   
      
   A mentally ill homeless man was annoying people on the New York subway, so   
   a couple of people held him down while a third choked him until, well, we   
   could all be sure he’d never annoy anyone ever again. Nobody intervened.   
   And now, The New York Times reports, the city is divided over what   
   happened.   
      
   We have come to that moment in human devolution when we are divided over   
   the merits of what I certainly see as a murder in plain sight. If Flannery   
   O’Connor came back to life, she’d have to put her pen right back down   
   again, because the grotesque has now become ordinary.   
      
   If a dog, or a squirrel, for that matter, had been snuffed out on the F   
   train while posing a threat to no one, wouldn’t all non-sadists be   
   appalled? A screaming homeless human, though, we’re not so sure about.   
      
   After the recent spate of shootings over nothing, in Kansas City and   
   elsewhere, at least we all agreed that little girls shouldn’t be left   
   bleeding over a ball that oops, got away from her and rolled into a   
   neighbor’s yard. And for all of our differences, nobody said that a young   
   man should by all means be shot in the head for ringing the wrong   
   doorbell.   
      
   We do not, however, all agree that someone like 30-year-old Jordan Neely,   
   who was held down for a good two minutes before he stopped moving, and   
   then was held down for another 50 seconds more, ought to be breathing   
   still even if we didn’t want to see, hear or smell him.   
      
   Maria Castańo, a 64-year-old interior designer in Brooklyn, told The Times   
   that she sees the 24-year-old former Marine who killed Neely as a hero and   
   Neely himself as someone who was, as the paper put it, “the recipient of   
   justice.”   
      
   “I feel sorry for the man,” Castańo said, “but he was acting threatening.”   
      
   New York Mayor Eric Adams, a former transit cop, was no more humane: “We   
   need to be extremely clear that from Day One of this administration, I   
   focused on (the fact that) we cannot have people with severe emotional   
   illnesses on our subway system,” he said. Be sure and let severely ill New   
   Yorkers know exactly where it is that they are supposed to be severely ill   
   without being subject to strangling, Mr. Mayor.   
      
   I spent much of the last year listening to unhoused people in California,   
   and when they and their loved ones cry that they are seen as less than   
   human, they aren’t exaggerating.   
      
   Neely was a subway performer and dancer whose act was canceled permanently   
   because, as a witness told The Times, he had been yelling, “I don’t have   
   food, I don’t have a drink, I’m fed up” and “ready to die.” Right after   
   that, someone took him at his word.   
      
   He was frightening, the witness said, but had not assaulted or threatened   
   anyone.   
      
   As it turned out, of course, Neely had more to fear than anyone else in   
   that subway car did.   
      
   That no one moved to help him makes me think of that woman who was raped   
   on a train near Philadelphia two years ago, while her fellow passengers   
   sat and watched a man rip her clothes off and attack her for a full eight   
   minutes.   
      
   Maybe they froze, I don’t know, but it shouldn’t have taken a lot of   
   courage to call 911.   
      
   This latest attack, though, may be worse, because even after the fact, we   
   can no longer so much as agree that the attacker was in the wrong.   
      
      
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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