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   No sympathy to Rightist American Pig   
   Re: Public sours on migrants and Democra   
   28 Aug 23 01:01:19   
   
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   From: no_sympathy@nytimes.com   
      
   Rightist American Pig  wrote in   
   news:uc9a5a$3s7i5$3@dont-email.me:   
      
   > You fuckers elected that stupid whore Hochul and dumbass Adams.  You   
   > declared yourself a sanctuary city and state.  Deal with it.   
      
   Mayor Adams talks about himself an awful lot.   
      
   When he’s not referring to himself in the third person, embellishing his   
   “perfectly imperfect” life story or presenting someone else’s experience   
   as if it were his own, he’s claiming ownership of “my teachers,” “my   
   police officers” and “my fast food workers,” along with “my homeless   
   shelters,” “my schools” and “my jails.”   
      
   But now the leader who boasts that God chose him for this role is   
   talking about how, when it comes to the migrants arriving here, “this is   
   not Mayor Adams’ job. This is the job of the people of the city of New   
   York.”   
      
   And about how “this is a moment where people need to stop asking, ‘Eric,   
   what are you doing?’ This is a moment we need to ask, ‘What are we   
   doing?’ ”   
      
   When a mayor this fond of himself and assertive about maintaining   
   control changes the subject from “I” to “we,” he’s breaking the glass   
   and sounding the alarm.   
      
   But his fellow Democrats aren’t in any rush to answer that call.   
      
   President Biden and Gov. Hochul have made plain that however much the   
   mayor coaxes, cajoles and complains they have no intention of catching   
   his hot potato while more migrants keep arriving here to join the more   
   than 100,000 who’ve already made it, most of them presently staying in   
   city shelters of one kind or another.   
      
   A Siena public poll released Tuesday helps explain why, and clearly   
   shows what press coverage and Democrats’ political rhetoric have often   
   obscured.   
      
   In a poll that has Biden up 13 points over Donald Trump in their   
   prospective 2024 rematch, a staggering 86% of registered voters in New   
   York City and 77% of Democrats statewide said “the recent influx of   
   migrants coming to New York” is a serious problem for the state.   
      
   A significant majority of voters in the city, 58%, said “New Yorkers   
   have already done enough for new migrants and should now work to slow   
   the flow of migrants to New York.”   
      
   Just 38%, presumably including the lady in the harbor, said “New Yorkers   
   should accept new migrants and work to assimilate them into New York.”   
      
   The city numbers match up with those statewide, where 58% of voters say   
   New York has done enough while 36% favor acceptance and assimilation.   
   Even Democrats were split on the question, 48%-48%.   
      
   The last year seems to have soured New Yorkers on immigration generally,   
   with more voters in the city and across the state seeing “migrants   
   resettling in New York” over the past two decades or so as a burden   
   (44%) than as a benefit (39%). The only notable exceptions to that harsh   
   consensus were Latinos, 31% of whom saw migrants as a burden while 51%   
   saw them as a benefit, and people making six figures, who were evenly   
   divided.   
      
   There’s an old adage for cowardly pols, about how you don’t get blamed   
   for what you don’t do that bears out in the Siena numbers.   
      
   While Hochul has been largely MIA over a FUBAR year, New York City   
   voters mostly approve, 48%-43%, of “the job [she] is doing to address   
   the recent influx of immigrants in New York” even as Adams, who’s been   
   at least trying to do his job, however imperfectly, is underwater at   
   46%-48%.   
      
   Outside of the city, both pols’ approaches have been wildly unpopular at   
   the same time that nearly half of suburban and upstate voters, along   
   with a vast majority of voters in the five boroughs, support the idea of   
   “relocating new migrants from temporary living conditions in New York   
   City to more permanent housing in communities around the state.”   
      
   But while Adams has called for that “decompression strategy,” Hochul,   
   seeing that just 27% of suburban voters approve of her migration   
   approach while 55% disapprove, has flatly declared she won’t do that   
   while making the very dubious claim that would be outside of her   
   authority as governor.   
      
   Hochul seems to think that the best way to keep her job is to not do her   
   job.   
      
   Sadly, she may be right, while the mayor who she’s all but abandoned —   
   and who seems afraid to say so out of fear the city would be punished,   
   as if it isn’t being punished already — is certainly right that the   
   arrival in a short span of a 100,000 needy people, and more coming, who   
   aren’t legally allowed to work is fundamentally a circumstance no city   
   can adequately respond to on its own.   
      
   The trouble is there’s no help coming any time soon from the courts or   
   the governor or the president.   
      
   The buck isn’t stopping here, but the migrants are.   
      
   Siegel (harrysiegel@gmail.com) is an editor at The City and a columnist   
   for the Daily News.   
      
   https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-public-sours-on-migrants-and-   
   pols-run-for-cover-20230826-ja4mfj75lbernbom32hoa5f75a-story.html   
      
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