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|    Frank <"frank to Bob F    |
|    Re: Here's who's buying panic rooms and     |
|    13 May 24 10:28:13    |
      XPost: alt.security.alarms, alt.home.repair, alt.politics.democrats       XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics       From: "@frank.net              On 5/13/2024 10:14 AM, Bob F wrote:       > On 5/13/2024 1:20 AM, useapen wrote:       >> New Yorkers are fortifying their homes with panic rooms and bullet-proof       >> doors like never before over fears about crime, migrants and national       >> turmoil — and it’s not just the city’s elite partaking in the trend.       >>       >> “Not every [customer] is an ultra-rich stockbroker — a lot of them are       >> just people, middle-class kind of people,” said Steve Humble, founder of       >> the home-defense contractor Creative Home Engineering.       >>       >> “I’d say the pandemic really kicked off an uptick. Business was really       >> good throughout the pandemic time, and it really hasn’t slowed down,”       >> said       >> Humble, who specializes in top-of-the-line secret doors disguised as       >> bookshelves, fireplaces, mirrors, blank walls and whatever else a client       >> can think of to conceal a safety room behind them.       >>       >> He is one of numerous home-defense contractors who told The Post that the       >> past four years have been a boon for business, with New Yorkers from all       >> walks of life shelling out thousands of dollars to outfit their homes       >> with       >> hidden rooms, bulletproof doors and a swath of other covert security       >> systems to keep the baddies at bay should they come knocking.       >>       >> The driving force is a decline in New Yorkers’ sense of safety —       assaults       >> in the Big Apple reached 28,000 for the first time on record last year —       >> and the perceptible shift toward volatile instability that many people       >> feel is ramping up across all of American society, Humble and others say.       >>       >> “Whether it’s real or perceived. People feel like crime is up,” Humble       >> said, explaining he has installed “well over 100” doors in homes across       >> New York, with middle-class homes in Queens and the Bronx standing out.       >>       >> David Vranicar, whose company Fortified and Ballistic Security       >> specializes       >> in such things as bulletproof doors and windows, said New Yorkers from       >> less affluent parts of Queens and Brooklyn have been driving his business       >> in the city, too.       >>       >> “Those are the people that actually need to stop bad guys from getting in       >> the house,” Vranicar said.       >>       >> “[What] my clients have been expressing to me is we saw how quickly       >> society can break down during COVID,” he said. “So, what would happen if       >> something really drastic happened? I think everybody’s a little scared.”       >>       >> While Humble specializes in concealing without-a-trace hidden safe rooms,       >> Vranicar’s defensive philosophy is focused on keeping the baddies moving       >> on by fortifying points of entry such as front doors and windows.       >>       >> “What we want to do is say, ‘If the riot breaks out, can I be       secured?’       >> And the reality is, even if it’s bad, and they’re banging on your door,       >> and they can’t get in, and it’s steel all the way around, they’re not       >> coming in. They’re just not, and they’ll move on,” he explained.       >>       >> He said he also focuses on fortifying bedrooms where homeowners are most       >> likely to be at their most vulnerable — asleep — should trouble make its       >> way inside.       >>       >> While Vranicar and Humble offer high-end custom projects — which can       >> quickly add up to tens of thousands of dollars and more — both also said       >> they provide a line of products to fortify or conceal doors on more       >> conservative budgets.       >>       >> Humble’s most affordable hidden door costs about $1,000, and though       >> Vranicar’s cheapest door starts around $6,000, he pointed out that       >> installing one such door on an apartment above ground level is going to       >> make the place as secure as it can be.       >>       >> “In New York, if you could afford six-grand for a door, you’re pretty       >> much       >> gonna be really safe,” Vranicar said.       >>       >> Though both have outfitted the homes of celebrities and statesmen alike,       >> average New Yorkers have helped make the city one of their biggest       >> markets       >> across the country, they said.       >>       >> “There’s a lot of people in New York that are ordering the pre-designed       >> secret doors from us,” said Humble, noting that New York City is one of       >> his top three markets.       >>       >> For not-so-average New Yorkers, there’s Bill Rigdon of Panic Room       >> Builders       >> — who caters to clients with homes worth around $10 million at a minimum.       >>       >> “The people below that can’t get their head around spending $50,000 for       a       >> door,” Rigdon told The Post.       >>       >> Rigdon builds panic rooms averaging between $100,000 and $200,000 — but       >> can quickly cost well above that. The rooms are equipped with a host of       >> defensive measures and life support such as food, water, plumbing,       >> medical       >> equipment, power sources and communication systems.       >>       >> Beyond ballistic doors that can stop AK-47 rounds and up, Rigdon’s panic       >> rooms can have electrified handles, smoke-screen launchers, concealed       >> nozzles for blasting dyed pepper spray at intruders and remotely       >> controlled robots or drones armed with shotgun shells.       >>       >> As with Humble and Vranicar, the names and addresses of Ridgon’s clients       >> are all protected by strict non-disclosure agreements, but he said the       >> city has become “a different ballgame” with “1% of 1% customers” in       >> recent       >> years.       >>       >> “The migrant thing has got people brain-spun because they’re living in       >> their crystal palace out in the Hamptons and they have to drive through       >> the city. and they see this,” Rigdon said.       >>       >> “In the city right now, it’s is the rampant crime, right? Political       >> unrest, which you see on the streets. And when these migrants started       >> going into town, you know, it’s broadcasts all over the news — my phone       >> blew up.”       >>       >> Recent city headlines have been so alarming that Rigdon estimates about       >> 90% of his Big Apple business right now comes from previous clients who       >> fear the instability — and potentially more from the upcoming 2024       >> presidential election.       >>       >> “It’s not ‘if,’ it’s ‘when’ it’s coming,’ ” Rigdon       said. “I have people I       >> work with in the agencies in Pittsburgh, and Philly — the FBI, you       >> name it       >> — and they’re worried. If they’re worried. Why shouldn’t we be       worried?”       >>       >> Vranicar and Humble said they also have been seeing a similar trend among       >> clients, many of whom have expressed fears over what has been simmering              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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