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      XPost: misc.legal, soc.veterans, talk.politics.guns       XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.nationalism.black       From: democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov              https://apnews.com/article/daniel-penny-subway-chokehold-death-trial-       436b3a5c79e9dbd34b351c4f3a2ac302              NEW YORK (AP) — For roughly six minutes, Jordan Neely was pinned to a       subway floor in a chokehold that ended with him lying still. But that’s       not what killed him, a forensic pathologist testified Thursday in       defense of the military-trained commuter charged with killing Neely.              Dr. Satish Chundru disputed a New York City medical examiner’s       determination that Daniel Penny’s chokehold killed Neely, who was       behaving erratically on a subway the two men were riding. Penny’s       defense says that he acted to protect frightened passengers and was       trying only to restrain Neely, not to kill him.              The white Marine veteran’s reaction to Neely, who was Black, homeless       and mentally ill, has become a flashpoint in national divides over race,       urban life and the boundary between self-defense and vigilantism.              Penny’s lawyers have argued throughout the trial that his pressure on       Neely’s neck wasn’t sufficient and consistent enough to be lethal. The       attorneys brought Chundru to the witness stand to shed light on their       argument.              He told jurors that Neely’s medical records and bystander video don’t       show telltale signs of known types of fatal chokeholds.              Among the discrepancies, he said: the location and extent of bruising on       Neely’s neck, and the small amount of petechiae — small red spots caused       by subsurface bleeding — on his eyelids.              “In your opinion, did Mr. Penny choke Mr. Neely to death?” defense       lawyer Steven Raiser asked.                     “No,” replied Chundru, who has worked as a medical examiner for county       governments in Florida and Texas.              He said Neely died from “the combined effects” of synthetic marijuana,       schizophrenia, his struggle and restraint, and a blood condition that       can lead to fatal complications during exertion.              “The chokehold did not cause death,” the pathologist said.              Prosecutor Dafna Yoran later sought to show that some aspects of       Chundru’s testimony, including about petechiae, departed from some       medical literature and even his own opinion in other cases. He responded       that the comparisons weren’t comparable.              His testimony starkly contrasted with the findings of Dr. Cynthia       Harris, the city medical examiner who performed Neely’s autopsy.              She told jurors earlier in the trial that Neely suffered “an asphyxial       death” as a result of the chokehold. She called it “profoundly       improbable” that Neely’s death was due to synthetic marijuana use and       sickle cell condition, which is related but not equivalent to sickle       cell disease.              Within the medical examiner’s office, “the consensus was unanimous” that       Neely had died from the chokehold, Harris said, adding: “There are no       alternative reasonable explanations.”              A Marine Corps combat instructor who trained Penny testified earlier       that the veteran didn’t use the chokehold properly when he restrained       Neely.              Penny, 26, has pleaded not guilty to manslaughter and criminally       negligent homicide. His defense says the Marine veteran and architecture       student was defending himself and a car full of subway riders.              Neely, 30, sometimes entertained subway riders as a Michael Jackson       impersonator. But he also had a history of psychiatric and drug problems       and a criminal record that included assaulting a woman at a subway       station.              When they crossed paths in a subway car on May 1, 2023, Neely was       begging for money, shouting about being willing to die or go to jail,       and making sudden movements, according to witnesses. Penny’s lawyers       have said Neely lurched toward a woman with a small child and said, “I       will kill.”              Penny put his arm around Neely’s neck, took him to the floor and held       Neely there, with Penny’s legs around him, for close to six minutes,       bystander videos show. Neely had stopped moving during roughly the last       minute.              Penny’s attorneys have said he continued to hold on, while urging       onlookers to call police, because Neely had tried at points to break       free.              Prosecutors maintain he applied too much force for too long.                     --       November 5, 2024 - Congratulations President Donald Trump. We look       forward to America being great again.              The disease known as Kamala Harris has been effectively treated and       eradicated.              We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so that       stupid people won't be offended.              Durham Report: The FBI has an integrity problem. It has none.              Thank you for cleaning up the disaster of the 2008-2017 Obama / Biden       fiasco, President Trump.              Under Barack Obama's leadership, the United States of America became the       The World According To Garp. Obama sold out heterosexuals for Hollywood       queer liberal democrat donors.              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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