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   Leroy N. Soetoro to All   
   Pathologist disputes finding that Marine   
   22 Nov 24 22:50:13   
   
   XPost: misc.legal, soc.veterans, talk.politics.guns   
   XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.nationalism.black   
   From: democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov   
      
   https://apnews.com/article/daniel-penny-subway-chokehold-death-trial-   
   436b3a5c79e9dbd34b351c4f3a2ac302   
      
   NEW YORK (AP) — For roughly six minutes, Jordan Neely was pinned to a   
   subway floor in a chokehold that ended with him lying still. But that’s   
   not what killed him, a forensic pathologist testified Thursday in   
   defense of the military-trained commuter charged with killing Neely.   
      
   Dr. Satish Chundru disputed a New York City medical examiner’s   
   determination that Daniel Penny’s chokehold killed Neely, who was   
   behaving erratically on a subway the two men were riding. Penny’s   
   defense says that he acted to protect frightened passengers and was   
   trying only to restrain Neely, not to kill him.   
      
   The white Marine veteran’s reaction to Neely, who was Black, homeless   
   and mentally ill, has become a flashpoint in national divides over race,   
   urban life and the boundary between self-defense and vigilantism.   
      
   Penny’s lawyers have argued throughout the trial that his pressure on   
   Neely’s neck wasn’t sufficient and consistent enough to be lethal. The   
   attorneys brought Chundru to the witness stand to shed light on their   
   argument.   
      
   He told jurors that Neely’s medical records and bystander video don’t   
   show telltale signs of known types of fatal chokeholds.   
      
   Among the discrepancies, he said: the location and extent of bruising on   
   Neely’s neck, and the small amount of petechiae — small red spots caused   
   by subsurface bleeding — on his eyelids.   
      
   “In your opinion, did Mr. Penny choke Mr. Neely to death?” defense   
   lawyer Steven Raiser asked.   
      
      
   “No,” replied Chundru, who has worked as a medical examiner for county   
   governments in Florida and Texas.   
      
   He said Neely died from “the combined effects” of synthetic marijuana,   
   schizophrenia, his struggle and restraint, and a blood condition that   
   can lead to fatal complications during exertion.   
      
   “The chokehold did not cause death,” the pathologist said.   
      
   Prosecutor Dafna Yoran later sought to show that some aspects of   
   Chundru’s testimony, including about petechiae, departed from some   
   medical literature and even his own opinion in other cases. He responded   
   that the comparisons weren’t comparable.   
      
   His testimony starkly contrasted with the findings of Dr. Cynthia   
   Harris, the city medical examiner who performed Neely’s autopsy.   
      
   She told jurors earlier in the trial that Neely suffered “an asphyxial   
   death” as a result of the chokehold. She called it “profoundly   
   improbable” that Neely’s death was due to synthetic marijuana use and   
   sickle cell condition, which is related but not equivalent to sickle   
   cell disease.   
      
   Within the medical examiner’s office, “the consensus was unanimous” that   
   Neely had died from the chokehold, Harris said, adding: “There are no   
   alternative reasonable explanations.”   
      
   A Marine Corps combat instructor who trained Penny testified earlier   
   that the veteran didn’t use the chokehold properly when he restrained   
   Neely.   
      
   Penny, 26, has pleaded not guilty to manslaughter and criminally   
   negligent homicide. His defense says the Marine veteran and architecture   
   student was defending himself and a car full of subway riders.   
      
   Neely, 30, sometimes entertained subway riders as a Michael Jackson   
   impersonator. But he also had a history of psychiatric and drug problems   
   and a criminal record that included assaulting a woman at a subway   
   station.   
      
   When they crossed paths in a subway car on May 1, 2023, Neely was   
   begging for money, shouting about being willing to die or go to jail,   
   and making sudden movements, according to witnesses. Penny’s lawyers   
   have said Neely lurched toward a woman with a small child and said, “I   
   will kill.”   
      
   Penny put his arm around Neely’s neck, took him to the floor and held   
   Neely there, with Penny’s legs around him, for close to six minutes,   
   bystander videos show. Neely had stopped moving during roughly the last   
   minute.   
      
   Penny’s attorneys have said he continued to hold on, while urging   
   onlookers to call police, because Neely had tried at points to break   
   free.   
      
   Prosecutors maintain he applied too much force for too long.   
      
      
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