On 06.01.15 2:35, Michael Finfer wrote:   
   > On 1/5/2015 12:51 PM, hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk wrote:   
   >> Hello,   
   >>   
   >> I know that all most if not all the M1/1As have all gone out of revenue   
   >> service on MNRR and LIRR, but I have heard different stories about the   
   >> ultimate fate of some of them.   
   >>   
   >> One story that I heard is that some of them wound up in Mexico for use   
   >> in passenger service as rail coaches. I don't know if that is true or   
   >> not as there is very little rail passenger service in the country,   
   >> though perhaps they could have found use in places like Mexico City or   
   >> Guadalajara for regional rail services?   
   >>   
   >> I also heard that some of them underwent complete refurbishing and had   
   >> become DMUs elsewhere in North America, though I don't exactly know   
   >> where.   
   >>   
   >> Can anybody tell me if any of this is true or not? Are there any   
   >> pictures of them post-MNRR/LIRR?   
   >>   
   >> Regarding the M2s, are any of them still operating? Is there a tentative   
   >> time for their retirement from revenue service? Also, are any of them   
   >> slated for any sort of post-MNRR service?   
   >>   
   >> (They were good trains, the M2.)   
   >>   
   >> What also is the fate of the M4 and M6? I had heard that the M6 is also   
   >> due for retirement soon, though this came as a surprise to me as they   
   >> are only about 20 years old. Surely, they would have another 10-15 years   
   >> left?   
   >>   
   >> I did hear, however, that the M6s were full of technical problems.   
   >>   
   >> Thanks in advance.   
   >   
   > The M1's are all retired.  I vaguely remember something about some being   
   > shipped to Mexico, I THINK, but someone else will have to confirm that.   
      
   I will do a search, though I hope that someone else here can come up   
   with some information.   
      
   > I saw a set of M2's in High Bridge yard this morning, so some are still   
   > in service.  There aren't all that many left, but I don't have an exact   
   > timetable as to when they will go.  If you want to ride them, don't wait   
   > too long.   
   >   
      
   Have they been relegated to game-day service, the M2s?   
      
   > I know there is an M9 on the drawing board which will trigger the   
   > retirement of the M3's, but I do not remember having heard anything   
   > about the M4's and the M6's.   
      
   Whatever happened with the M5, BTW? IIRC, it never went beyond a   
   drawing. I guess that they never even built a prototype.   
      
   I saw on Google Images a picture of the proposed M9, which doesn't look   
   that much different from the M7/7a. I also understood that that those   
   trains will only carry the model number M9 throughout the MTA, and that   
   there will be no M9A.   
      
   > I had one ride on the M8's last spring.  They are surprisingly rough   
   > riders, rough enough to shake the fillings right out of your teeth!   
      
   Yes, I have had a couple of rides on the M8s when I visited New York.   
   They weigh a tonne and a half, in relative terms, and you can definitely   
   feel it.   
      
   > The   
   > M2's I rode on the way back gave a much smoother ride.   
   >   
      
   M2s were likely the best of any trains on Metro-North. I have heard   
   engineers time and again praise them for their very good construction,   
   their reliability as well as their MDBFs.   
      
   I will be very sorry to see the M2s go as they, IMHO, were truly the   
   workhorse of Metro-North's fleet. They were like a reliable and good   
   friend.   
      
   I also find the M2s to be much more aesthetically pleasing than the M8s,   
   which are plain ugly in comparison.   
      
   The M8 also does nothing in terms of air streaming, whereas with the   
   M2/4/6, they at least pretended to make an effort.   
      
   The same applies with the M7/7A, with those vents sticking out they they   
   do. That certainly cannot help with airstreaming, and hopefully the M9s   
   will have that feature removed.   
      
   BTW, is the M7 or M9 body design set for use as a DMU in New York State   
   and Oregon? I ask, because I saw a picture on Google Images of one that   
   has received approval for that purpose by the FRA.   
      
   http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p125/Dutchrailnut/Railroading   
   BombardierDMU.jpg   
      
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