On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 2:02:19 PM UTC-5, Peter T. Daniels wrote:   
   > > Another way the MTA cheats its riders is by making old cards worthless   
   after several years.  Lots of people have old cards in desk drawers and such,   
   the MTA will not redeem them.   
   >   
   > Since when? How old?   
      
   All I know is when I tried to present an old (about five years) Metrocard for   
   fare, they told me (multiple times) it was no good as it was too old, not   
   redeemable, and could not be traded in.   
      
   (A _one_ year old card will expire and not be valid for fare, but they will   
   exchange that.)   
      
   > You gave two examples of physical records of long-ago payment (a token, a   
   > mag card with the info encoded on it). Do you know of any entirely computer-   
   > based system that retains individual transaction information indefinitely?   
      
   We are NOT talking about "indefinitely".   
      
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