From: grammatim@verizon.net   
      
   On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 1:42:47 PM UTC-4, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:   
   > In article , Ed Ravin    
   wrote:   
   > >From somewhere in cyberspace, jmelsna@verizon.net said:   
   > >>One of those odd things that comes up in conversation. I know that more   
   > >>and more subway stations have elevators to enable access for those with   
   > >>mobility issues. How many stations, though, have elevators because of   
   > >>the sheer *distance* from the station to the street?   
   > >   
   > >A few Washington Heights subway station have elevators for exactly   
   > >those reasons - 168th St, & 181st St on the 1 line in particular,   
   > >which are only accessible via elevator under normal circumstances   
   > >(there should still be an emergency staircase somewhere).   
   > >   
   > >The 1 and A stations at 191st St and 190th St respectively also   
   > >have elevators for that reason, although with those stations it   
   > >is only for the "upper" entrance to the station (at the top of a   
   > >steep hill). At both stations there is also a non-elevator entrance   
   > >that can be reached at the bottom of the hill on a neighboring street   
   > >through a ground-level passage.   
   >   
   > 181st and 190th.  190th is a little different, though.  The passage   
   > to the "neighboring street" goes more than a full city block   
   > sideways -- it's not really a matter of the station being built into   
   > the slope of a hill like 181st is.  There is a similar (3rd)   
   > entrance to 181st but it is much, much shorter than the 190th passage.   
   >   
   > A cool breeze blows out of the passage at 190th and Broadway  all   
   > the time and it has a smooth floor and a gentle slope -- they have a   
   > heck of a time keeping kids on bikes and skateboards out of there during   
   > the hot months. :-)  Our other similar neighborhood sport is to take   
   > the elevator at the 181st "A" stop up with one's bike, ride it down   
   > Overlook Terrace to one of the downhill entrances, ride the elevator   
   > up, repeat until the sun falls in the sky.  The kids keep that a little   
   > more low-key and nobody really seems to mind.   
   >   
   > The 190th street side passage was originally used for the removal of   
   > excavated material during construction and was the site of a very   
   > bad construction accident when it collapsed on a work crew.  There   
   > is a point in that tunnel where it goes from raw rock to very obviously   
   > concrete lined, and I *think* that's where the accident was.  There is   
   > a plaque somewhere around the station.   
      
   You're confusing 190th on the A train and 191st on the 1.   
      
   The 190th tunnel opens at Bennett Avenue, the 191st at Broadway.   
      
   The A 181st St. has a very long escalator to 181st St. The 184th St. end   
   of the station has an elevator to a shortish tunnel opening at Overlook   
   Terrace, where the Yeshiva shuttle buses (used to?) run from. The 1 181st   
   is simply very deep and has no tunnel; as at 168th it has an elevator.   
   A 168th must've been cut-and-cover. I've only ever used the 175th St.   
   station once and it too is near the surface but may have been tunneled.   
      
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