On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 9:43:52 AM UTC-4, Peter T. Daniels wrote:   
      
   > A very short time (months?) before the Blackout of November '65, the TA (as   
   it   
   > may still have been) had stopped generating its own electricity and tied into   
   > the Grid. As a result, we had no subway service.   
      
   I don't believe the IND ever generated its own power, so that entire   
   network would've been shut down.   
      
   I think by 1965 the BMT was using ConEd, so that entire network would've   
   been shut down.   
      
   Perhaps the original IRT generated its own power--though I'm surprised   
   it did so as late as 1965--but I question if _later_ IRT extensions   
   used IRT power, or used ConEd, as I suspect.   
      
   It's also possible that things like signals and lighting were on   
   commercial power even if traction power was generated.  That meant   
   a shutdown.   
      
   Generating and distributing your own power is expensive and inefficient.   
   Even when electric railways originally generated their own power, they   
   switched to commercial power when it became available.   
      
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