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   From: me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net   
      
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   news:77723dhttspnjtg0s3hohitpm9h09vmoh2@4ax.com...   
   > On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:25:53 -0500, "Scout"   
   > wrote:   
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   >> wrote in message   
   >>news:55713ddf3kq93vl20p5fv1mkoouuh0ia40@4ax.com...   
   >>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 21:26:14 -0500, "Scout"   
   >>> wrote:   
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   >>>> wrote in message   
   >>>>news:i7113d14t45kj2addl7rmur1j0m9ippo9q@4ax.com...   
   >>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:05:36 -0500, "Scout"   
   >>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>news:m0r03ddm4e8vv5fsujd1m597rr0jtugltu@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 18:09:21 -0500, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>"Teresita" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>news:p0of6d02v7d@news4.newsguy.com...   
   >>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2017 03:34 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> And lastly the fact that she said the word if just goes to show   
   >>>>>>>>>> that   
   >>>>>>>>>> any theist is a fucking idiot and a trashy liar that will say   
   >>>>>>>>>> anything   
   >>>>>>>>>> or do anything (including lying) just to show that a god exists.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> No one has shown tangible evidence that a god exists, ever.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Can you define exactly what such tangible evidence would be?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Note: It has to exist independent of such a God having to prove he   
   >>>>>>>>exists.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Does a swallow need to prove to you it exists?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Does a rock?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Do you even know what it is you would be looking for?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Well first your god does not have to prove it exists,   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>First mistake, I have no gods. I'm here merely as a mildly interested   
   >>>>>>neutral party.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>You do.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>No, I don't because I've not made any claims that god(s) do or do not   
   >>>>>>exist.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Can a theist prove they exist?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>You would have to ask one.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Of course the flip side of that question is can a antitheist prove   
   >>>>>>they   
   >>>>>>do   
   >>>>>>not exist   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> do you know what an anti theist is? because I am one.   
   >>>>> and proving that I don't exist is an invalid question. it is a null   
   >>>>> set. the same as try ng to divide by zero   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Fine, the you're asserting to have proof that gods don't exist.   
   >>>   
   >>> again that is an invalid statement,   
   >>   
   >>It's a perfectly valid statement.   
   >>   
   >>>just how will one prove something   
   >>> that doesn't exist,   
   >>   
   >>That would seem to be your problem....   
   >>   
   >> >doesn't actually exist. A person would have to   
   >>> prove or at least show existence to give the reason why it doesn't   
   >>> exist. how do you prove nothing?   
   >>   
   >>And yet you claim to know.....   
   >>   
   >>See lack of evidence of existence is not the same thing as non-existence.   
   >   
   > It is not my job to present evidence, it is not a task I even need to   
   > do.   
      
   I never asked you to present the evidence However, you do have an obligation   
   to tell us exactly what the evidence should be if it exists. Particularly   
   since you've claimed it doesn't exist. Which means you have to know what the   
   evidence should be.   
      
   So far, despite asking multiple times, you yet to discuss this point.   
      
   As such I can only conclude that your beliefs are merely a matter of Faith,   
   which you mock in other people who hold a different Faith.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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