XPost: uk.railway   
      
   On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 01:28:52 +0000, "hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk"   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 15.12.17 1:32, Recliner wrote:   
   >> hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk  wrote:   
   >>> We have in the past spoken on this newsgroup about various solutions to   
   >>> replace the Island Line' 38ts, such as further cascading older LUL stock   
   >>> or even something new like the Class 132.   
      
   >>> I have no personal interest in this. But I think that relevant parties   
   >>> need to start thinking outside of the box if they are serious about   
   >>> finding a solution to the the Island Line's current situation.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> I can't comment on how suitable those New York trains would be for the   
   >> Island Line (I strongly suspect they're too tall),   
   >   
   >I don't know what the gauge is on the tunnel,   
      
   As it is the main obstacle to operating various stocks on the line   
   finding that out rather than hoisting pie in the sky  ideas first   
   would be more logical.   
      
      
   >   
   >A PPM-class train would need to be a very expensive bespoke job, since   
   >the existing prototype cannot attain the 45-mile trackspeed. But that's   
   >irrelevant anyway as, IIRC, the producer of that equipment is out of   
   >business.   
   >   
   As mentioned in a previous thread the vehicles on the Stourbridge   
   branch were built by a sub contractor. Whatever bit of Parry's various   
   Enterprises ran into financial problems doesn't mean all the various   
   companies closed down. Someone will hold the IP,   
      
      
   >That's why I think that cascaded equipment from elsewhere would be good.   
   >And I was thinking of the New York City Subway or PATH   
   >   
   >What's the deal with the T-series tram idea out of Manchester, BTW?   
   >   
   >Something indeed does need to happen,   
      
   Ideas can be spun constantly for various ideas some more practical   
   than others.   
   Solving the problem is easy technically ,the problem is that even   
   cheap solutions are too expensive.   
   The really cheap solution of just obtaining 2nd hand mechanical era   
   tube trains just doesn't exist anymore and even that will not solve   
   the infrastructure problems.   
      
   It really boils down to how government from local upwards answers   
   questions such as   
      Is this line socially needed enough to justify millions of pounds   
   of tax revenue being spent on it?   
   Yes or NO.   
      
   If Yes will you be willing to more tax or lose some other services?   
      
   Although it is slower if we said that going by bus and closing the   
   railway will mean we don't have to raise your tax and lose some other   
   services would that influence on whether you want to keep the   
   railway?.   
      
   G.Harman   
      
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