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   From: nuke_them_from_orbit@sulaco.com   
      
   bilgat@m.nu wrote in news:phnr3dla65f6fh7iqt0mbje95s1cv6baib@4ax.com:   
      
   > On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 20:59:51 -0500, "Scout"   
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   >>news:ihp83dpcqq6s0sk7i1he1aaj9j39deuaog@4ax.com...   
   >>> On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 15:23:27 -0500, "Scout"   
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   >>>>news:77723dhttspnjtg0s3hohitpm9h09vmoh2@4ax.com...   
   >>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:25:53 -0500, "Scout"   
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   >>>>>>news:55713ddf3kq93vl20p5fv1mkoouuh0ia40@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 21:26:14 -0500, "Scout"   
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   >>>>>>>>news:i7113d14t45kj2addl7rmur1j0m9ippo9q@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:05:36 -0500, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>news:m0r03ddm4e8vv5fsujd1m597rr0jtugltu@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 18:09:21 -0500, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>"Teresita"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>news:p0of6d02v7d@news4.newsguy.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2017 03:34 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And lastly the fact that she said the word if just goes to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> show that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any theist is a fucking idiot and a trashy liar that will   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> say anything   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or do anything (including lying) just to show that a god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exists.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> No one has shown tangible evidence that a god exists, ever.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>Can you define exactly what such tangible evidence would be?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>Note: It has to exist independent of such a God having to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>prove he exists.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>Does a swallow need to prove to you it exists?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>Does a rock?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>Do you even know what it is you would be looking for?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Well first your god does not have to prove it exists,   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>First mistake, I have no gods. I'm here merely as a mildly   
   >>>>>>>>>>interested   
   >>>>>>>>>>neutral party.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>You do.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>No, I don't because I've not made any claims that god(s) do or   
   >>>>>>>>>>do not   
   >>>>>>>>>>exist.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Can a theist prove they exist?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>You would have to ask one.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>Of course the flip side of that question is can a antitheist   
   >>>>>>>>>>prove they   
   >>>>>>>>>>do   
   >>>>>>>>>>not exist   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> do you know what an anti theist is? because I am one.   
   >>>>>>>>> and proving that I don't exist is an invalid question. it is a   
   >>>>>>>>> null set. the same as try ng to divide by zero   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Fine, the you're asserting to have proof that gods don't exist.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> again that is an invalid statement,   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>It's a perfectly valid statement.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>just how will one prove something   
   >>>>>>> that doesn't exist,   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>That would seem to be your problem....   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> >doesn't actually exist. A person would have to   
   >>>>>>> prove or at least show existence to give the reason why it doesn't   
   >>>>>>> exist. how do you prove nothing?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>And yet you claim to know.....   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>See lack of evidence of existence is not the same thing as   
   >>>>>>non-existence.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It is not my job to present evidence, it is not a task I even need   
   >>>>> to do.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>I never asked you to present the evidence However, you do have an   
   >>>>obligation   
   >>>>to tell us exactly what the evidence should be if it exists.   
   >>>>Particularly since you've claimed it doesn't exist. Which means you   
   >>>>have to know what the   
   >>>>evidence should be.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>So far, despite asking multiple times, you yet to discuss this point.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>As such I can only conclude that your beliefs are merely a matter of   
   >>>>Faith,   
   >>>>which you mock in other people who hold a different Faith.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> I will say this one more time for the slow people. I DO NOT have to   
   >>> give evidence for something that does not exist,   
   >>   
   >>If you can't prove it doesn't exist, then how can you assert it doesn't?   
   >   
   > That's just it. I mean aside from you being the typical theist moron.   
   > I don't assert that it does not exist. I don't need to prove that it   
   > does not exist. If it can not be proven to exist then it does not   
   > fucking exist.   
      
   So absence of evidence is evidence of absence? Which science method is   
   that?   
      
   The evidence is all around you, you choose not to see it.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>Is not your position merely your own expression of Faith? Faith of the   
   >>type you ridicule in others?   
   >   
   > You really, REALLY have no clue what you are even talking about. I   
   > mean really, no clue at all.   
      
   I rather think he's flomoxed you as your langauge becomes more abusive.   
      
      
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