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From: me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net
"Wile E. Coyote" wrote in message
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> bilgat@m.nu wrote in news:phnr3dla65f6fh7iqt0mbje95s1cv6baib@4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 20:59:51 -0500, "Scout"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> wrote in message
>>>news:ihp83dpcqq6s0sk7i1he1aaj9j39deuaog@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 15:23:27 -0500, "Scout"
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>>news:77723dhttspnjtg0s3hohitpm9h09vmoh2@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:25:53 -0500, "Scout"
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:55713ddf3kq93vl20p5fv1mkoouuh0ia40@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 21:26:14 -0500, "Scout"
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:i7113d14t45kj2addl7rmur1j0m9ippo9q@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:05:36 -0500, "Scout"
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>news:m0r03ddm4e8vv5fsujd1m597rr0jtugltu@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 18:09:21 -0500, "Scout"
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Teresita" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:p0of6d02v7d@news4.newsguy.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2017 03:34 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And lastly the fact that she said the word if just goes to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any theist is a fucking idiot and a trashy liar that will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or do anything (including lying) just to show that a god
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one has shown tangible evidence that a god exists, ever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can you define exactly what such tangible evidence would be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Note: It has to exist independent of such a God having to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>prove he exists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Does a swallow need to prove to you it exists?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Does a rock?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Do you even know what it is you would be looking for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well first your god does not have to prove it exists,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>First mistake, I have no gods. I'm here merely as a mildly
>>>>>>>>>>>interested
>>>>>>>>>>>neutral party.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>You do.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>No, I don't because I've not made any claims that god(s) do or
>>>>>>>>>>>do not
>>>>>>>>>>>exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can a theist prove they exist?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>You would have to ask one.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Of course the flip side of that question is can a antitheist
>>>>>>>>>>>prove they
>>>>>>>>>>>do
>>>>>>>>>>>not exist
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> do you know what an anti theist is? because I am one.
>>>>>>>>>> and proving that I don't exist is an invalid question. it is a
>>>>>>>>>> null set. the same as try ng to divide by zero
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Fine, the you're asserting to have proof that gods don't exist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> again that is an invalid statement,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's a perfectly valid statement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>just how will one prove something
>>>>>>>> that doesn't exist,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That would seem to be your problem....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >doesn't actually exist. A person would have to
>>>>>>>> prove or at least show existence to give the reason why it doesn't
>>>>>>>> exist. how do you prove nothing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And yet you claim to know.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>See lack of evidence of existence is not the same thing as
>>>>>>>non-existence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is not my job to present evidence, it is not a task I even need
>>>>>> to do.
>>>>>
>>>>>I never asked you to present the evidence However, you do have an
>>>>>obligation
>>>>>to tell us exactly what the evidence should be if it exists.
>>>>>Particularly since you've claimed it doesn't exist. Which means you
>>>>>have to know what the
>>>>>evidence should be.
>>>>>
>>>>>So far, despite asking multiple times, you yet to discuss this point.
>>>>>
>>>>>As such I can only conclude that your beliefs are merely a matter of
>>>>>Faith,
>>>>>which you mock in other people who hold a different Faith.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will say this one more time for the slow people. I DO NOT have to
>>>> give evidence for something that does not exist,
>>>
>>>If you can't prove it doesn't exist, then how can you assert it doesn't?
>>
>> That's just it. I mean aside from you being the typical theist moron.
>> I don't assert that it does not exist. I don't need to prove that it
>> does not exist. If it can not be proven to exist then it does not
>> fucking exist.
>
> So absence of evidence is evidence of absence? Which science method is
> that?
>
> The evidence is all around you, you choose not to see it.
Strike "is" and insert "may be"
For until you know what it is you're looking for....you may not see the
forest for the trees.
>
>>
>>>
>>>Is not your position merely your own expression of Faith? Faith of the
>>>type you ridicule in others?
>>
>> You really, REALLY have no clue what you are even talking about. I
>> mean really, no clue at all.
>
> I rather think he's flomoxed you as your langauge becomes more abusive.
I think he's getting quite upset when he's being made to realize that his
beliefs are merely a matter of faith....no different in nature than the very
sort of faith he ridicules in others.
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