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From: me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net
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> On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 14:37:12 -0500, "Scout"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Wile E. Coyote" wrote in message
>>news:XnsA854636114FWereofftoseethewizrd@85.214.115.223...
>>> bilgat@m.nu wrote in news:phnr3dla65f6fh7iqt0mbje95s1cv6baib@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 20:59:51 -0500, "Scout"
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ihp83dpcqq6s0sk7i1he1aaj9j39deuaog@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 15:23:27 -0500, "Scout"
>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:25:53 -0500, "Scout"
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:55713ddf3kq93vl20p5fv1mkoouuh0ia40@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 21:26:14 -0500, "Scout"
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:05:36 -0500, "Scout"
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:m0r03ddm4e8vv5fsujd1m597rr0jtugltu@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 18:09:21 -0500, "Scout"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Teresita" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:p0of6d02v7d@news4.newsguy.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2017 03:34 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And lastly the fact that she said the word if just goes to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any theist is a fucking idiot and a trashy liar that will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or do anything (including lying) just to show that a god
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one has shown tangible evidence that a god exists, ever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can you define exactly what such tangible evidence would be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Note: It has to exist independent of such a God having to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>prove he exists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Does a swallow need to prove to you it exists?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Does a rock?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Do you even know what it is you would be looking for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well first your god does not have to prove it exists,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>First mistake, I have no gods. I'm here merely as a mildly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>neutral party.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, I don't because I've not made any claims that god(s) do or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can a theist prove they exist?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>You would have to ask one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Of course the flip side of that question is can a antitheist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>prove they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>not exist
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> do you know what an anti theist is? because I am one.
>>>>>>>>>>>> and proving that I don't exist is an invalid question. it is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> null set. the same as try ng to divide by zero
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Fine, the you're asserting to have proof that gods don't exist.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> again that is an invalid statement,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It's a perfectly valid statement.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>just how will one prove something
>>>>>>>>>> that doesn't exist,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>That would seem to be your problem....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >doesn't actually exist. A person would have to
>>>>>>>>>> prove or at least show existence to give the reason why it
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> exist. how do you prove nothing?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And yet you claim to know.....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>See lack of evidence of existence is not the same thing as
>>>>>>>>>non-existence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is not my job to present evidence, it is not a task I even need
>>>>>>>> to do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I never asked you to present the evidence However, you do have an
>>>>>>>obligation
>>>>>>>to tell us exactly what the evidence should be if it exists.
>>>>>>>Particularly since you've claimed it doesn't exist. Which means you
>>>>>>>have to know what the
>>>>>>>evidence should be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So far, despite asking multiple times, you yet to discuss this point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As such I can only conclude that your beliefs are merely a matter of
>>>>>>>Faith,
>>>>>>>which you mock in other people who hold a different Faith.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will say this one more time for the slow people. I DO NOT have to
>>>>>> give evidence for something that does not exist,
>>>>>
>>>>>If you can't prove it doesn't exist, then how can you assert it
>>>>>doesn't?
>>>>
>>>> That's just it. I mean aside from you being the typical theist moron.
>>>> I don't assert that it does not exist. I don't need to prove that it
>>>> does not exist. If it can not be proven to exist then it does not
>>>> fucking exist.
>>>
>>> So absence of evidence is evidence of absence? Which science method is
>>> that?
>
> First of all the is the most retarded thing I have ever heard of......
> Absence of evidence is not evidence of everything.
> But IF YOU CANT SHOW SOMETHING is there then that is proof that it is
> not there,
IOW, according to you the absence of evidence is proof of absence?
So why do scientists spend all this time looking for evidence?
I mean if they don't already have the evidence, then there is no point in
looking for it because clearly it doesn't exist.
I will simply note that according to you nothing new can every be found
because we've already discovered everything that exists.
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