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   From: trdell12345@gmail.com   
      
   On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:57:35 -0500, "Scout"   
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   >> On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 20:59:51 -0500, "Scout"   
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   >>>> On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 15:23:27 -0500, "Scout"   
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   >>>>>news:77723dhttspnjtg0s3hohitpm9h09vmoh2@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:25:53 -0500, "Scout"   
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   >>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 21:26:14 -0500, "Scout"   
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   >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:05:36 -0500, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>news:m0r03ddm4e8vv5fsujd1m597rr0jtugltu@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 18:09:21 -0500, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>"Teresita"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>news:p0of6d02v7d@news4.newsguy.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2017 03:34 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And lastly the fact that she said the word if just goes to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any theist is a fucking idiot and a trashy liar that will say   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or do anything (including lying) just to show that a god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exists.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one has shown tangible evidence that a god exists, ever.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>Can you define exactly what such tangible evidence would be?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>Note: It has to exist independent of such a God having to prove   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>he   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>exists.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>Does a swallow need to prove to you it exists?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>Does a rock?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>Do you even know what it is you would be looking for?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Well first your god does not have to prove it exists,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>First mistake, I have no gods. I'm here merely as a mildly   
   >>>>>>>>>>>interested   
   >>>>>>>>>>>neutral party.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>You do.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>No, I don't because I've not made any claims that god(s) do or do   
   >>>>>>>>>>>not   
   >>>>>>>>>>>exist.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Can a theist prove they exist?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>You would have to ask one.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>Of course the flip side of that question is can a antitheist prove   
   >>>>>>>>>>>they   
   >>>>>>>>>>>do   
   >>>>>>>>>>>not exist   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> do you know what an anti theist is? because I am one.   
   >>>>>>>>>> and proving that I don't exist is an invalid question. it is a   
   >>>>>>>>>> null   
   >>>>>>>>>> set. the same as try ng to divide by zero   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>Fine, the you're asserting to have proof that gods don't exist.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> again that is an invalid statement,   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>It's a perfectly valid statement.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>just how will one prove something   
   >>>>>>>> that doesn't exist,   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>That would seem to be your problem....   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >doesn't actually exist. A person would have to   
   >>>>>>>> prove or at least show existence to give the reason why it doesn't   
   >>>>>>>> exist. how do you prove nothing?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>And yet you claim to know.....   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>See lack of evidence of existence is not the same thing as   
   >>>>>>>non-existence.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It is not my job to present evidence, it is not a task I even need to   
   >>>>>> do.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>I never asked you to present the evidence However, you do have an   
   >>>>>obligation   
   >>>>>to tell us exactly what the evidence should be if it exists.   
   >>>>>Particularly   
   >>>>>since you've claimed it doesn't exist. Which means you have to know what   
   >>>>>the   
   >>>>>evidence should be.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>So far, despite asking multiple times, you yet to discuss this point.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>As such I can only conclude that your beliefs are merely a matter of   
   >>>>>Faith,   
   >>>>>which you mock in other people who hold a different Faith.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I will say this one more time for the slow people. I DO NOT have to   
   >>>> give evidence for something that does not exist,   
   >>>   
   >>>If you can't prove it doesn't exist, then how can you assert it doesn't?   
   >>   
   >> That's just it. I mean aside from you being the typical theist moron.   
   >   
   >And when I don't buy into your faith, suddenly you start throwing names and   
   >making false accusations.   
   >   
   >Try again when you can stick to the facts.....instead of reacting based on   
   >your faith.   
   >   
      
   You just about made me choke as  hypatiab7 and bilgat@m.nu do as you   
   suggest not going to happen.  Just be glad they haven't used the magic   
   word 'Troll' yet.  That is alt.atheism Voodoo.  .   
      
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