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   Scout to MattB   
   Re: Black atheist survives explosion at    
   02 Jan 18 21:52:06   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, talk.politics.guns   
   XPost: sac.politics   
   From: me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net   
      
   "MattB"  wrote in message   
   news:fl7g4dd0v91olujjhl5oiglt69b15a0ibe@4ax.com...   
   > On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:57:35 -0500, "Scout"   
   >  wrote:   
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   >> wrote in message   
   >>news:phnr3dla65f6fh7iqt0mbje95s1cv6baib@4ax.com...   
   >>> On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 20:59:51 -0500, "Scout"   
   >>>  wrote:   
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   >>>> wrote in message   
   >>>>news:ihp83dpcqq6s0sk7i1he1aaj9j39deuaog@4ax.com...   
   >>>>> On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 15:23:27 -0500, "Scout"   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>> wrote in message   
   >>>>>>news:77723dhttspnjtg0s3hohitpm9h09vmoh2@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:25:53 -0500, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>> wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>news:55713ddf3kq93vl20p5fv1mkoouuh0ia40@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 21:26:14 -0500, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
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   >>>>>>>>>> wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>news:i7113d14t45kj2addl7rmur1j0m9ippo9q@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:05:36 -0500, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>news:m0r03ddm4e8vv5fsujd1m597rr0jtugltu@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 18:09:21 -0500, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Teresita"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:p0of6d02v7d@news4.newsguy.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2017 03:34 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And lastly the fact that she said the word if just goes to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any theist is a fucking idiot and a trashy liar that will   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or do anything (including lying) just to show that a god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exists.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one has shown tangible evidence that a god exists, ever.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can you define exactly what such tangible evidence would be?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Note: It has to exist independent of such a God having to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>prove   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>he   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>exists.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Does a swallow need to prove to you it exists?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Does a rock?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Do you even know what it is you would be looking for?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well first your god does not have to prove it exists,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>First mistake, I have no gods. I'm here merely as a mildly   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>interested   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>neutral party.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>You do.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>No, I don't because I've not made any claims that god(s) do or   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>do   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>not   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>exist.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can a theist prove they exist?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>You would have to ask one.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>Of course the flip side of that question is can a antitheist   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>prove   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>they   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>do   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>not exist   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> do you know what an anti theist is? because I am one.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> and proving that I don't exist is an invalid question. it is a   
   >>>>>>>>>>> null   
   >>>>>>>>>>> set. the same as try ng to divide by zero   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>Fine, the you're asserting to have proof that gods don't exist.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> again that is an invalid statement,   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>It's a perfectly valid statement.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>just how will one prove something   
   >>>>>>>>> that doesn't exist,   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>That would seem to be your problem....   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> >doesn't actually exist. A person would have to   
   >>>>>>>>> prove or at least show existence to give the reason why it doesn't   
   >>>>>>>>> exist. how do you prove nothing?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>And yet you claim to know.....   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>See lack of evidence of existence is not the same thing as   
   >>>>>>>>non-existence.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> It is not my job to present evidence, it is not a task I even need   
   >>>>>>> to   
   >>>>>>> do.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>I never asked you to present the evidence However, you do have an   
   >>>>>>obligation   
   >>>>>>to tell us exactly what the evidence should be if it exists.   
   >>>>>>Particularly   
   >>>>>>since you've claimed it doesn't exist. Which means you have to know   
   >>>>>>what   
   >>>>>>the   
   >>>>>>evidence should be.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>So far, despite asking multiple times, you yet to discuss this point.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>As such I can only conclude that your beliefs are merely a matter of   
   >>>>>>Faith,   
   >>>>>>which you mock in other people who hold a different Faith.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I will say this one more time for the slow people. I DO NOT have to   
   >>>>> give evidence for something that does not exist,   
   >>>>   
   >>>>If you can't prove it doesn't exist, then how can you assert it doesn't?   
   >>>   
   >>> That's just it. I mean aside from you being the typical theist moron.   
   >>   
   >>And when I don't buy into your faith, suddenly you start throwing names   
   >>and   
   >>making false accusations.   
   >>   
   >>Try again when you can stick to the facts.....instead of reacting based on   
   >>your faith.   
   >>   
   >   
   > You just about made me choke as  hypatiab7 and bilgat@m.nu do as you   
   > suggest not going to happen.  Just be glad they haven't used the magic   
   > word 'Troll' yet.  That is alt.atheism Voodoo.  .   
      
   Oh, they have already expressed such notions in not in such a short manner.   
   Seems they have issues with someone who wont play be whatever the rules are   
   as they decide them to be.   
      
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