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   XPost: sac.politics   
   From: trdell12345@gmail.com   
      
   On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 21:52:06 -0500, "Scout"   
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   >"MattB"  wrote in message   
   >news:fl7g4dd0v91olujjhl5oiglt69b15a0ibe@4ax.com...   
   >> On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:57:35 -0500, "Scout"   
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   >>>> On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 20:59:51 -0500, "Scout"   
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   >>>>>> On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 15:23:27 -0500, "Scout"   
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   >>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:25:53 -0500, "Scout"   
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   >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 21:26:14 -0500, "Scout"   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:05:36 -0500, "Scout"   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 18:09:21 -0500, "Scout"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
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   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Teresita"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:p0of6d02v7d@news4.newsguy.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2017 03:34 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And lastly the fact that she said the word if just goes to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any theist is a fucking idiot and a trashy liar that will   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or do anything (including lying) just to show that a god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exists.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one has shown tangible evidence that a god exists, ever.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can you define exactly what such tangible evidence would be?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Note: It has to exist independent of such a God having to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>prove   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>he   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>exists.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Does a swallow need to prove to you it exists?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Does a rock?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Do you even know what it is you would be looking for?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well first your god does not have to prove it exists,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>First mistake, I have no gods. I'm here merely as a mildly   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>interested   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>neutral party.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>You do.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>No, I don't because I've not made any claims that god(s) do or   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>do   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>not   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>exist.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can a theist prove they exist?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>You would have to ask one.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>Of course the flip side of that question is can a antitheist   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>prove   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>they   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>do   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>not exist   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> do you know what an anti theist is? because I am one.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> and proving that I don't exist is an invalid question. it is a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> null   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> set. the same as try ng to divide by zero   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>Fine, the you're asserting to have proof that gods don't exist.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> again that is an invalid statement,   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>It's a perfectly valid statement.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>just how will one prove something   
   >>>>>>>>>> that doesn't exist,   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>That would seem to be your problem....   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> >doesn't actually exist. A person would have to   
   >>>>>>>>>> prove or at least show existence to give the reason why it doesn't   
   >>>>>>>>>> exist. how do you prove nothing?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>And yet you claim to know.....   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>See lack of evidence of existence is not the same thing as   
   >>>>>>>>>non-existence.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It is not my job to present evidence, it is not a task I even need   
   >>>>>>>> to   
   >>>>>>>> do.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>I never asked you to present the evidence However, you do have an   
   >>>>>>>obligation   
   >>>>>>>to tell us exactly what the evidence should be if it exists.   
   >>>>>>>Particularly   
   >>>>>>>since you've claimed it doesn't exist. Which means you have to know   
   >>>>>>>what   
   >>>>>>>the   
   >>>>>>>evidence should be.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>So far, despite asking multiple times, you yet to discuss this point.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>As such I can only conclude that your beliefs are merely a matter of   
   >>>>>>>Faith,   
   >>>>>>>which you mock in other people who hold a different Faith.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I will say this one more time for the slow people. I DO NOT have to   
   >>>>>> give evidence for something that does not exist,   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>If you can't prove it doesn't exist, then how can you assert it doesn't?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That's just it. I mean aside from you being the typical theist moron.   
   >>>   
   >>>And when I don't buy into your faith, suddenly you start throwing names   
   >>>and   
   >>>making false accusations.   
   >>>   
   >>>Try again when you can stick to the facts.....instead of reacting based on   
   >>>your faith.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> You just about made me choke as  hypatiab7 and bilgat@m.nu do as you   
   >> suggest not going to happen.  Just be glad they haven't used the magic   
   >> word 'Troll' yet.  That is alt.atheism Voodoo.  .   
   >   
   >Oh, they have already expressed such notions in not in such a short manner.   
   >Seems they have issues with someone who wont play be whatever the rules are   
   >as they decide them to be.   
   >   
   alt.atheism is defiantly of the soviet type.   
      
   The USSR anti-religious campaign of 1928–1941 was a new phase of   
   anti-religious persecution in the Soviet Union following the   
   anti-religious campaign of 1921–1928. The campaign began in 1929, with   
   the drafting of new legislation that severely prohibited religious   
   activities and called for a heightened attack on religion in order to   
   further disseminate atheism. This had been preceded in 1928 at the   
   fifteenth party congress, where Joseph Stalin criticized the party for   
      
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