On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 6:50:52 PM UTC-4, houn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:   
   > On 10.04.19 20:17, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:   
   > > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 6:43:17 PM UTC-4, houn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:   
   > >   
   > >>> Phila had a Mkt-Fkd fleet delivered in 1960.  I always thought   
   > >>> they rode like crap.  I was told that they were built on the   
   > >>> cheap to save money.   
   > >>   
   > >> Who built them, Budd?   
   > >   
   > > Yes, Budd in 1960.  Pretty short delivery (by truck), from   
   > > the plant to the El terminal.   
   > >   
   > > The Mkt-Fkd line was and is trolley guage, not standard.   
   >   
   > I did not know that, I must admit.   
   >   
   > Did the M4s carry much of a cost premium, due to their unique track   
   > gauge? It could be seen as a bespoke job.   
      
   Since it was new construction and a volume job, I don't think there   
   was any added cost.   
      
   The MFSE and BSS are totally separate, no connection.  It probably   
   would've helped SEPTA to have a connection to allowed for common   
   work equipment.  But like the IRT and IND-BMT, they're of different   
   carbody sizes, too.   
      
   Do they use IRT work trains on the BMT-IND?   
      
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