From: grammatim@verizon.net   
      
   On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 11:08:24 AM UTC-4, John Levine wrote:   
   > In article <09b172dc-8173-47b2-ac0f-43fc9a2dbc5d@googlegroups.com>,   
   > Peter T. Daniels wrote:   
      
   > >> I've certainly travelled from New York to Philadelphia and back in a   
   > >> day, as well as down to DC and back.   
   > >You're a railfan. It seems unlikely you had business in any of the cities.   
   > >30th St. Station isn't convenient to either downtown or the university!   
   >   
   > Well, yeah, and Penn Station isn't close to Wall St, NYU, or Columbia,   
   > either.   
      
   But it _is_ convenient to lots of places people want to go to.   
      
   > With an Amtrak ticket you get a free transfer from 30th St on any   
   > SEPTA train to the two center city stations, or you can use the   
   > Market-Frankford subway. To UPenn you take the trolley to 37th st.   
      
   I haven't heard of those free transfers.   
      
   > In DC, Union Station is walking distance from most of the federal   
   > buildings, and a few stops on the red line to Dupont Circle.   
      
   FSVO "walking distance."   
      
   > >I've been to Philadelphia for the day at least three times -- always   
   > >by car.   
   >   
   > Ugh. I've seen enough of the NJ Turnpike for several lifetimes.   
      
   The Turnpike doesn't go there.   
      
   > >Incidentally, Amtrak charged a huge amount for my ticket -- possibly   
   > >because I made the reservation less than a month before, but possibly   
   > >because for some reason I was booked southbound on the through train   
   > >to Miami (or some such) rather than a regular NEC train   
   >   
   > According to the schedule, the Florida trains don't allow local   
   > traffic between NY and DC. Maybe it was the Carolinean. Either way,   
   > the fares are the same as for any other non-Acela, but the cheap tix   
   > tend to sell out early.   
      
   And the snack bar had a passable Philly Cheese Steak on the menu (on-boarded   
   in Philadelphia, apparently, manufactured in a suburb), but the regular   
   train for the return didn't. The first snack bar guy was nice, the second   
   one wasn't.   
      
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