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   Message 2,493 of 3,014   
   Peter T. Daniels to Clark F Morris   
   Re: ARC would not have allowed closing o   
   24 Apr 19 05:33:42   
   
   From: grammatim@verizon.net   
      
   On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 5:58:34 PM UTC-4, Clark F Morris wrote:   
   > On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 13:58:06 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   > >On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 3:21:32 PM UTC-4, hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:   
   > >> On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 8:03:08 AM UTC-4, Peter T. Daniels wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >> > While Christie was starving it of both operating and capital funding?   
   Have   
   > >> > you NO sense of political or economic realities?   
   > >>   
   > >> Christie inflicted a hell of a lot of pain on the State of New   
   > >> Jersey and left it in far worse shape than many people know.   
   > >> Just like Trump, he had a base who believed his bullshit when   
   > >> in fact he did nothing good and wasted lots of money.   
   > >>   
   > >> However, when it comes to transit projects, Christie wasn't   
   > >> alone.  NJT, even before Christie, managed to shoot itself   
   > >> in the foot numerous times.   
   > >   
   > >Maybe the best one was when he shifted billions from the Port Authority   
   > >(not that it was exactly squeaky-clean) to the Pulaski Skyway rebuild.   
   > >(The main roadway was actually finished a few months ago, but the ramps   
   > >of the intermediate exits are still closed.)   
   > >   
   > >That was after killing the ARC Tunnel, which would have been done by now,   
   > >so they could close the existing tunnel for a rebuild after Sandy. And in   
   > >the process demolishing the best McDonald's for miles around, as well as   
   > >a large self-storage warehouse.   
   >   
   > Since the ARC plan had the tunnels leading to a terminal under Macy's   
   > basement they would not have allowed for the closure of the existing   
   > tunnels for re-building.  At best it would have allowing one tunnel to   
   > be closed at a time   
      
   Isn't that better than no trains going through at all? Are we ready for   
   the revival of the mass ferries from Hoboken? Unfortunately the Jersey   
   City terminals are no longer available.   
      
   > with all NJT trains going to 17 stories below 34th   
      
   What's the big deal about "17 stories below"? That's why God invented   
   elevators. Have you ever used the subway at 168th, 181st, or 191st Sts.?   
   Or Smith-9th?   
      
   > Street while allowing Amtrak to single track.  That assumes that the   
   > 34th Street terminal could handle all of the NJT trains.   
      
   I remember something like that objection years ago. What, exactly, were   
   the plans for the tunnel, and if they were so lousy, how did they get as   
   far as they did with as much money wasted on construction as was wasted?   
   If Christie had any intelligence at all, wouldn't that have been his   
   excuse for shutting it down?   
      
   Bridget Kelly being resentenced today in the other Christie transportation   
   scandal.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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