From: steveo@panix.com   
      
   Ruben Safir   wrote:   
   >So you hjave to pay the MTA to move in NYC if you don't take a bus?   
   >That is bullshit.   
      
   You could walk or bike.   
      
   >Buses carry nobody nowhere and kill traffic.  You sound like a single   
   >person who doesn't have children or elderly people that you need to get   
   >around town, because this is an ignorant thing to even say.   
      
   If you have a minivan full of enough people, the congestion   
   charge will be less than the subway fare. And you'll have a   
   faster ride because of less congestion.   
      
   >Without cars, modern life is impossible, especially for the poor.   
      
   Lol.   
      
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