From: mrbrklyn@panix.com
Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 9:41:50 AM UTC-4, danny burstein wrote:
>> In ste...@panix.com (Steven M. O'Neill)
writes:
>>
>> [snip]
>> >If you have a minivan full of enough people, the congestion
>> >charge will be less than the subway fare. And you'll have a
>> >faster ride because of less congestion.
>>
>> One BIG annoyance in the recent changes in PANYNJ tolls (for
>> some value of recent that might be a decade by now...) was
>> the MAJOR increase in the toll rate for buses and the
>> shuttle vans.
>
> The only time I have driven into the city (from Jersey City)
> since the toll was raised from $6 was when I had a weekend
> conference at St. John's University, which cannot be accessed
> in a finite amount of time by public transportation -- and the
> hotel was about two miles from the campus, necessitating
> a car while there.
>
> The Holland Tunnel was not a problem. Canal Street to
> Delancey to the Manhattan Bridge was hellish. The BQE
> to the LIE was hellish. The LIE was hellish. And this was
> early on a Thursday afternoon.
>
Why would you do that? You would take the GW to the Whitestone
> Returning early Sunday afternoon was also hellish.
>
> Cars do not belong in cities.
>
> My question regarding congestion pricing concerns
> crossing Manhattan to the Island. They keep threatening
> to toll the four East River bridges. Even so, are we supposed
> to drive all the way around the bottom of Manhattan to get
> there?
>
> I drove to my friend's mother's funeral in Bristol, CT.
> I used the Tappan Zee. It was $5. If there had been
> time I would have used the gorgeous Bear Mountain
> Bridge, which was either $1 or by then $1.25 (but US-6
> isn't built for speed).
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