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   Peter T. Daniels to Ruben Safir   
   Re: What is 1.6 billion between friends?   
   30 Oct 23 06:02:33   
   
   From: petertdaniels@gmail.com   
      
   You left out the part -- which was included in the rsdio version of the    
   story -- that the cars are "undr warranty" so the repairs will be done    
   at no cost to the MTA.   
      
   Or are you simply complaining that subway cars needn't be replaced    
   every 40 years or so? This bunch replaces the R-41's.   
      
   On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 1:03:36 PM UTC-4, Ruben Safir wrote:   
      
   > https://gothamist.com/news/mtas-gleaming-new-subway-cars-taken   
   out-of-service-for-faulty-gearboxes-flat-wheels    
   >    
   > MTA’s gleaming new subway cars taken out of service for faulty   
   gearboxes, flat wheels    
   > By Stephen NessenPublished Oct 26, 2023Modified Oct 26, 2023Sh   
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   > Nearly all of the MTA’s brand new subway cars are off the rails.    
   >    
   > Six out of seven trains made up of the newest R211 cars have been taken out   
   of service due to faulty gearboxes, the agency confirmed Thursday.    
   >    
   > Subway operators explained to Gothamist the gearboxes on trains are similar   
   to the gears that run the chain on a bike and keep its wheels turning. If one   
   is damaged on a subway train, the wheels can lock up and drag. And when the   
   steel wheels drag,    
   they can become flat, causing the train to bump and clank as it rolls down the   
   tracks.    
   >    
   > A video posted online last week appears to show that happening, with a new   
   R211 train noisily rumbling through the Nostrand Avenue station on the A line   
   as it’s removed from service.    
   >    
   > MTA officials didn’t comment directly on the video.    
   >    
   > “During routine operations of R211 subway cars in service, New York   
   City Transit crews discovered a faulty gear box in some of the cars,†  
   Eugene Resnick, an MTA spokesperson, wrote in an email. “As is the case   
   whenever we identify an    
   issue with a particular subway car model, we have temporarily removed the   
   affected trains from service until further testing is complete.†   
   >    
   > Since August, the MTA has said it was putting two new R211 trains —   
   each made up of 10 cars — into service each month. Officials described   
   the cars as “cutting edge, top of the line, faster, cleaner and   
   safer.†The new models    
   would have “more reliable service,†MTA officials said.    
   >    
   > The R211 trains currently run on the A line. The MTA said no train service   
   was affected.    
   >    
   > One of the new trains was also pulled from service in April after it was hit   
   with graffiti.    
   >    
   > The MTA often has problems with its new train sets. In early 2020 the MTA   
   pulled all of its then-newest subway cars from service due to a faulty door   
   mechanism. Those trains — called R179s —- were manufactured by   
   Bombardier and delivered    
   nearly three years behind schedule.    
   >    
   > The problems with the R211s follow more manufacturing delays from Kawasaki,   
   which in 2018 inked a $1.44 billion contract to deliver 535 of the new subway   
   cars. The first of the new cars arrived more than a year late. The MTA board   
   last year approved    
   the purchase of another 640 R211 cars from Kawasaki for $1.78 billion.    
   >    
   > At this week’s MTA board meeting, MTA Chair Janno Lieber called for   
   more competition in the railcar market. He noted a federal mandate requires   
   the MTA to buy U.S.-made train cars. Only two U.S.-based companies manufacture   
   the train cars:    
   Kawasaki, which has plants in Nebraska and Yonkers, and Alstom, which acquired   
   Bombardier in 2021.    
   >    
   > “We really have to be taking action to grow the competitive market for   
   rail cars and buses,†Lieber said.    
   >    
   > New York City Transit President Richard Davey called the mechanical problems   
   "a warranty issue," emphasizing that taxpayers will not pay for the fixes. He   
   predicted the trains will be back in service in weeks.    
   >    
   > This story has been updated with information from the MTA on how many of the   
   R211 trains have been taken out of service and comment from NYCT President   
   Richard Dave   
      
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