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From: klunk@theothershoe.org
"0:->" wrote in message
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> Larry wrote:
>> Well, this is interesting. Remember all that whoopla about the police
>> chiefs and CACPs' supposedly in staunch support of the registry, that
>> aint xactly true! Here is a little tidbit, which took me hours of reading
>> to find, that sure wasn't suppose to be discovered. Seems they've been
>> into some mind changin', but we sure weren't suppose to, and the Libs'
>> didn't want us, ta find out!
>> So, you armchair do-gooders, here's my proof, from da horses mouth so to
>> speak, that this registry has absolutely no positive effect in keeping
>> YOU safe from guns.
>> Now, where is your proof it does?????
>>
>> "POLICE SAY: GUN REGISTRY IS "DEEPLY, AND POSSIBLY, FATALLY FLAWED"
>> Police Association letter: "To think criminals will be affected by
>> this legislation is asinine."
>>
>> Ottawa - Today, Garry Breitkreuz, Official Opposition Firearms Critic
>> and MP for Yorkton-Melville, made public a copy of leaked letter that
>> adds credence to his claims that the police associations are getting
>> ready to withdraw their "official" support from the Liberal's useless
>> $400 million gun registry. "We always knew that the vast majority of
>> police on the street opposed the gun registration scheme, now we have
>> proof that the executive who represent these rank-and-file officers
>> are finally starting to get the message."
>> Breitkreuz released a copy of a letter from the Ontario Senior
>> Officers' Police Association to Solicitor General Lawrence MacAuley
>> dated Friday, January 21, 2000. The 8-page letter provides even more
>> evidence that the gun registry is in serious trouble and corroborates
>> reports given to Justice Minister Anne McLellan by her own User Group
>> on Firearms. The letter states, "There is little doubt that the
>> legislation is deeply, and possibly fatally flawed. There was ample
>> time to research and prepare appropriately for a feasible and workable
>> act - this was not done, in our view."
>> Here are a few more quotable quotes from the police association letter
>> to the Liberal government:
>> · This.has produced bitterness, acrimony, divisive bickering.and an
>> act which, to be kind, is ineffective .
>> · It has created a bureaucratic quagmire and its deterrent effect is
>> questionable, at best.
>> · A glance at Bill C68 is all that is required to realize that a law
>> degree is required to understand and use it.
>> · Several thousand FIP hits.because they have been extracted several
>> times for the same incident.
>> · The original matter has to be re-investigated. Surely, this is not
>> how the system was designed to work.
>> · Transfers now take up to three days to complete. The sale or
>> purchase of a house can take less time.
>> · Firearms businesses are closing because of the.legislation as it
>> is
>> presently constituted. This is outrageous.
>> · The program still lacks the proper modules for Firearms Officers.
>> · It does not store information, and never will, back to the CFRS
>> system, which was supposed to be the case.
>> · The system is extremely slow (licence applications take seven
>> minutes on average each to open and approve).
>> · The computers are as slow now as at the outset of the program.
>> · The CFRS system is not user friendly. It is cumbersome and
>> awkward.
>> It is slow and painful.
>> · This training had to be conducted throughout the province at a
>> substantial cost to the taxpayer.
>> · The question is why does Quebec have their own site at all!
>> · The implementation of the act should be halted, or funded and
>> staffed to appropriate levels.
>> · They all recognize a disastrously flawed piece of legislation,
>> which
>> is a bureaucratic miasma.
>> The police association letter to the Solicitor General ended like
>> this, "It is never too late to correct a situation, provided the
>> political will exists." I couldn't have put it better myself,"
>> concluded Breitkreuz.
> ...snip.........
>
> But, but, but....spluttered "clunk," it just needs tweaking and better
> enforcement to work.
But, but, but... spewed the idiot... "it's gotta go"
> "Do away with the right to privacy, on the street or in one's home, and
> make people line up to be searched each morning their doorstep and it'll
> work.
ya... let's track people NOT weapons.
> It's the darn secret hoarding gun nuts that resist this lovely citizen's
> safety plan that have caused all the expense and problems. If they'd just
> lay back, spread their legs and enjoy it........"
you wish
> Thanks Larry. Nice work.
nice try
> The claims of the LEOs and others have been our arguments here all along.
> And we have historical records to look at that show NO scheme of this kind
> has ever worked to "make people safer."
yup... compelling evidence that it needs to be fixed.
> Best Wishes, Kane
>
>
> --
> "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
> to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
> contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else)
and now you know that a lamb can be just as obstinate as a wolf.
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