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   NOSPAM cogeco.ca to klunk   
   Re: Gun registry paid for so why dismant   
   22 Jul 06 21:18:51   
   
   XPost: can.politics, can.talk.guns, kingston.general   
   XPost: talk.politics.guns, van.general   
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   hey kluck, blah blah blah! I showed you the very people you tree huggers   
   have been harping are the ones that should know whether the registry works   
   and support it, the Chiefs and police, when in fact do not support the   
   registry, and all you can do is spew out, from your single celled Darwinism   
   brain, psycho babble with a Freudian truism, citing you were in fact not   
   talking about these particular chiefs, police or CACPs', but the 2 or 3 that   
   won't fess up they in fact have changed their mind, because they would   
   rather play the game than say they erred.   
   If you think it is only a few rebel cops that have just jumped ship on this,   
   you sir, are sorely mistaken. I have hundreds of statements here like the   
   ones I posted, of police all across this country that are out there every   
   day putting their lives on the line to protect mindless freaks like you,   
   that are saying registration doesn't work. That the millions being flushed   
   down the toilet senselessly to track the guns of law abiding citizens would   
   be better spent, and we would be much safer, getting criminals off the   
   streets. I will gladly email them to you if you wish. I wouldn't post them   
   here because it's days of reading there's so many. Also, every police   
   officer I talked to locally said the registry hasn't helped them at all, not   
   once.   
   So, post the proof you claim shows the registry works, then slither back   
   into your primordial ooze where you belong with the other worthless armchair   
   airheads who are more interested in legislation and noise than actually   
   dealing with the problem.   
   I, sir, am not your problem, it's that guy around the corner from you that   
   wouldn't register his weapons because he's not interested in abiding by the   
   laws, who you should be looking out for.   
   Also, if you think for one instant I'm not interested in stopping gun   
   violence because I don't support the registry, or I don't have a stake in   
   wanting to be safe on the street, I have a lot bigger stake than you ever   
   will, sir. I still have bullet fragments in both my legs from a repeat   
   offender that spent a few days in jail and paid a little fines his first gun   
   offences.   
   FYI, he did not have nor ever had an FAC, and he laughed as he said he could   
   get a gun whenever he wanted. Oh, he got 7 years for shooting me, was out in   
   4! You think the registry means anything to this lowlife?   
   So, the next time you hear of someone getting shot, praying they live, ask   
   them which makes more sense to them? Spending money on a registry that only   
   tells police what guns I have, because they already know I have some with a   
   simple click of the mouse because I have an FAC, or more resources to combat   
   and punish criminals? Call me crazy, I vote for the resources, that fucking   
   whiteman, and all others like him, should never be allowed to walk the   
   streets again. I say, we should have "do unto others as they have done unto   
   you" justice.   
   I would gladly give the asshole a 300 yard start! With my 7mm rem mag, on a   
   bad day, I get less than 2inch groups at 500yards.   
   Sorry guys, I know, that doesn't help our cause, but it felt good for a   
   moment...I sometimes have to take a moment now and then????!!!!   
   Larry   
   "klunk"  wrote in message   
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   >> Larry wrote:   
   >>> Well, this is interesting. Remember all that whoopla about the police   
   >>> chiefs and CACPs' supposedly in staunch support of the registry, that   
   >>> aint xactly true! Here is a little tidbit, which took me hours of   
   >>> reading to find, that sure wasn't suppose to be discovered. Seems   
   >>> they've been into some mind changin', but we sure weren't suppose to,   
   >>> and the Libs' didn't want us, ta find out!   
   >>> So, you armchair do-gooders, here's my proof, from da horses mouth so to   
   >>> speak, that this registry has absolutely no positive effect in keeping   
   >>> YOU safe from guns.   
   >>> Now, where is your proof it does?????   
   >>>   
   >>> "POLICE SAY: GUN REGISTRY IS "DEEPLY, AND POSSIBLY, FATALLY FLAWED"   
   >>> Police Association letter: "To think criminals will be affected by   
   >>> this legislation is asinine."   
   >>>   
   >>> Ottawa - Today, Garry Breitkreuz, Official Opposition Firearms Critic   
   >>> and MP for Yorkton-Melville, made public a copy of leaked letter that   
   >>> adds credence to his claims that the police associations are getting   
   >>> ready to withdraw their "official" support from the Liberal's useless   
   >>> $400 million gun registry. "We always knew that the vast majority of   
   >>> police on the street opposed the gun registration scheme, now we have   
   >>> proof that the executive who represent these rank-and-file officers   
   >>> are finally starting to get the message."   
   >>> Breitkreuz released a copy of a letter from the Ontario Senior   
   >>> Officers' Police Association to Solicitor General Lawrence MacAuley   
   >>> dated Friday, January 21, 2000. The 8-page letter provides even more   
   >>> evidence that the gun registry is in serious trouble and corroborates   
   >>> reports given to Justice Minister Anne McLellan by her own User Group   
   >>> on Firearms. The letter states, "There is little doubt that the   
   >>> legislation is deeply, and possibly fatally flawed. There was ample   
   >>> time to research and prepare appropriately for a feasible and workable   
   >>> act - this was not done, in our view."   
   >>> Here are a few more quotable quotes from the police association letter   
   >>> to the Liberal government:   
   >>> ·      This.has produced bitterness, acrimony, divisive bickering.and an   
   >>> act which, to be kind, is ineffective .   
   >>> ·      It has created a bureaucratic quagmire and its deterrent effect   
   >>> is   
   >>> questionable, at best.   
   >>> ·      A glance at Bill C68 is all that is required to realize that a   
   >>> law   
   >>> degree is required to understand and use it.   
   >>> ·      Several thousand FIP hits.because they have been extracted   
   >>> several   
   >>> times for the same incident.   
   >>> ·      The original matter has to be re-investigated. Surely, this is   
   >>> not   
   >>> how the system was designed to work.   
   >>> ·      Transfers now take up to three days to complete. The sale or   
   >>> purchase of a house can take less time.   
   >>> ·      Firearms businesses are closing because of the.legislation as it   
   >>> is   
   >>> presently constituted. This is outrageous.   
   >>> ·      The program still lacks the proper modules for Firearms Officers.   
   >>> ·      It does not store information, and never will, back to the CFRS   
   >>> system, which was supposed to be the case.   
   >>> ·      The system is extremely slow (licence applications take seven   
   >>> minutes on average each to open and approve).   
      
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