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   From: klunk@theothershoe.org   
      
   "Larry" wrote in message   
   news:TRbxg.47205$Uy1.37164@read1.cgocable.net...   
   >    
   >>>> So, the next time you hear of someone getting shot, praying they live,   
   >>>> ask them which makes more sense to them? Spending money on a registry   
   >>>> that only tells police what guns I have, because they already know I   
   >>>> have some with a simple click of the mouse because I have an FAC, or   
   >>>> more resources to combat and punish criminals? Call me crazy, I vote   
   >>>> for the resources, that fucking whiteman, and all others like him,   
   >>>> should never be allowed to walk the streets again. I say, we should   
   >>>> have "do unto others as they have done unto you" justice.   
   >   
   > When criminals break the law and get sent to jail, they have chosen to   
   >>> give up the rights that are a privilege of abiding by the law...or   
   >>> that's the way it should be.   
   >>   
   >> ya... if we were living in the stone age... or any time prior to that of   
   >> the concept of "individual rights and freedoms"..   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>> and here, you've just proven that you sir, do NOT demonstrate   
   >>> sufficiently adequate emotional and intellectuall capacity and/or   
   >>> restraint to be a "responsible gun owner"... and in my view, your   
   >>> application should be rejected   
   >   
   > No kluck, what I demonstrated is someone can get angry and say things, but   
   > wouldn't be violent and carry through with it. I have an FAC and abide by   
   > the laws.   
      
   No Fairy, what you demonstrated is an incapacity to manage your emotions and   
   this is a clear indication of a problem personality that can potentially   
   lose control while wielding a deadly weapon...   
      
      
   > Because I have an FAC, the police will already know I have firearms when   
   > they come to my home. So what does it matter what guns I have?   
      
   So what does it matter if they are registered?   
      
      
   > On the other hand, when a criminal gets angry enough to be violent, it   
   > won't matter whether the firearm is registered or not, and according to   
   > stats, majority of gun crimes involve unregistered guns.   
      
   ho-hum.... try saying something different than the rest of the loons, ok?...   
   at least provide a spin that demonstrates you've read at least a bit of this   
   several-month-long thread... ya know, just to sound less like you're talking   
   out of your ass....   
      
   > The millions of $ being wasted could get more criminals and illegal guns   
   > off the streets. Why is it more important to you people to know what guns   
   > I, a law abiding citizen, have, rather than punishing the criminals?   
   > Also, why do we still see so many handgun crimes? That registry started   
   > in 1930s' (37- 39 I believe). So by your theory, this shouldn't be so?!?!?   
   > It also shows you ARE one of those lowlifes' with an "ahh, poor criminal,   
   > go easy on him" mentality. It is because of people like you that we don't   
   > PUNISH criminals that break the law, so they get out and become repeat   
   > offenders because there's no deterrent. The right of a criminal is to be   
   > safely housed, fed, and not be tortured. Incarcerated, a big screen TV is   
   > not an individuals right or freedom, conjugal visits is not an individuals   
   > right or freedom, idleness and not being in some way laborious is not an   
   > individuals right or freedom, smut material is not an individuals right or   
   > freedom, voting is not an individuals right or freedom.   
   > If we started punishing these people with real sentences, take away the   
   > luxuries, and once again take away the rights and privileges earned,   
   > deserved and enjoyed by being a law abiding citizen, crime rate would go   
   > down.   
   > But, like I said, you're more interested in what guns I have rather than   
   > reducing crime.   
   > MorningMoon Bear   
   > Larry   
      
      
   actually your guns, along with all other guns are either actually used in   
   commiting crimes or they can potentially become crime-enabling weapons...   
   so, by tracking all guns, we (as a society - try not to forget we're all in   
   this together) are more capable of managing a problem that is insanely out   
   of control....   
      
      
      
      
   > "klunk" wrote in message   
   > news:GDUwg.220670$iF6.132461@pd7tw2no...   
   >>   
   >> "Larry" wrote in message   
   >> news:kSSwg.47133$Uy1.43705@read1.cgocable.net...   
   >>> No, I'm the problem,   
   >>   
   >> exactly   
   >>   
   >>>the problem is people like you that thinks we should all live where we're   
   >>>told and in what kind of dwelling, told how to live, go where we're told   
   >>>when we're told, eat when and what we're told, what we can own, or not   
   >>>own, take away free enterprise so no one has anything more than you, and   
   >>>when someone goes outside the bounds, put more constraints on the law   
   >>>abiding citizens rather than punish the law breaker...and give the   
   >>>ass-wipe perp more rights than the people he injured...including the   
   >>>right to vote.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> It's people like you that are the reason we have to live like prisoners   
   >>> while criminals have more rights than the victim and those that don't   
   >>> break the law.   
   >>   
   >> it's this belief that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the demented   
   >> and delusionary world that screams about inanities you don't have the   
   >> slightest inkling about... "criminals" don't have "more" rights than   
   >> you... they have the SAME rights as you, idiot... but you don't see that   
   >> at all, do you?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> When criminals break the law and get sent to jail, they have chosen to   
   >>> give up the rights that are a privilege of abiding by the law...or   
   >>> that's the way it should be.   
   >>   
   >> ya... if we were living in the stone age... or any time prior to that of   
   >> the concept of "individual rights and freedoms"..   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>But because of people like you, criminals are getting away with murder,   
   >>>and if they do get caught, the only thing they give up is the ability to   
   >>>choose which house they live in.   
   >>   
   >> But because of idiots like you, that fail to see the big picture, you   
   >> prefer to make it as easy as possible for criminals to get away with   
   >> murder... and if they do get caught, you scream like banshees and   
   >> distancing yourself from yet another embarassing example of the failure   
   >> our society has amply demonstrated on the management of this pandemic of   
   >> violent crime.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> But, you just keep being more concerned about how many guns I have to   
   >>> keep the focus off the criminal, and most likely you will become a   
   >>> victim of gun violence, either directly, or indirectly by a family   
   >>> member or good friend getting hurt or dead.   
   >>   
   >> But, you just keep being more concerned about hoarding your little   
   >> weapons in secrecy without taking responsibilty for their destructiveness   
      
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