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   What fails is your feeble attempt to discredit those that speak the truth.   
   There are many police documented that say the registry is no use in fighting   
   crime.   
   The point, I can produce pages of these testimonies from police all across   
   the country, but I have not seen any evidents to the contrary from you, or   
   any other extremist.   
   And yes, ultimately the bottom line comes down to $$$$. The exhorberant   
   amount of our money that has went into this fiascal is sickening,   
   considering it has made no impact on getting criminals and illegal guns off   
   the street, and never will.   
   What will produce the results we are all in favour of, is putting more   
   police on the streets with more resources to accomplish the goal.   
   You want to spend millions, and even billions, more on something that has   
   been tried and ultimately failed, and allow the criminals to out-man and   
   out-gun our police, rather than getting the upper hand on the real   
   criminals.   
   This just boggles my mind! At some point, you have to forget about your   
   emotions, put your biased opinions aside, and approach things with common   
   sense and logic. If not, your scheme ultimately ends in an expensive   
   failure, such as we have now.   
   If I'm wrong, and the registry is providing results, you should be able to   
   produce it.   
   I know you're befuddled because I can produce evidents to support my claim,   
   because all you can do is say "I don't like what they say, so it can't be   
   true". But show us what you have to prove your claims that registration is   
   an invaluable tool.   
      
      
   >> hmmm.... after sifting through all that crap... i found 8 different   
   >> officers identified... hmmmm... if some sort of dissent existed on any   
   >> scale amongst the force over the justifications for the registry; first   
   >> of all, you'd be able to offer up MANY MORE names and tons of links to   
   >> support their claims in context... and you'd likely even be able to find   
   >> some form of survey of police opinions... what you've offered is nothing   
   >> more than hearsay from a few dissenting voices where there should be by   
   >> default, far more voices simply due to the per-capita ratio gun-lobbying   
   >> police versus the population at large... iow... if the number of police   
   >> who support the abolishment of the registry were proportionate to the   
   >> population at large, you should be able to easily drum up 100 names....   
   >> what you've offered falls far short of anything remotely resembling a   
   >> convincing or compelling argument...   
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   > come to think of it... what you've offered is overwhelming proof that the   
   > vast majority of police support the registry and there is no culture of   
   > dissent amongst the ranks... only a couple of voices whom appear to also   
   > be loony-toon-gun-loons against a backdrop of how many police in   
   > canada?... some dissent is entirely expected and should not surprise   
   > anyone... nor should it surprise anyone that you guys are so desperate   
   > that you'll hang onto any thread you can find... no matter how weak...   
   > after all... it's just a matter of spin, ain't it... it's all about how   
   > you dress up them numbers, eh?   
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