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From: springpig@ns.sympatico.ca
SaPeIsMa wrote:
> "Peter White" wrote in message
> news:RLAXg.4629$cz.65903@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>
>>
>>Alan Baker wrote:
>>
>>>In article ,
>>> ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>"penny" wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Who killed the electric car -- a crime of mammoth proportions with
>>>>>>>>consequences for our environment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Electric cars produce zero emissions and therefore don't contribute
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>the global warming disaster. They were a key invention in dealing
>>>>>>>>with global warming. Yet they have disappeared from the market
>>>>>>>>place.
>>>>
>>>>>>"pcourterelle" (someone@ms.com) writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>ABarlow and Chom have patiently explained why the electric car is
>>>>>>>neither an environmentally friendly option for reducing green-house
>>>>>>>gases as you claim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>(K): You're kidding. right? Usenet posters have become the definitive
>>>>>>experts on the electric car and its viability? You must be a mighty
>>>>>>confused little man if you're taking your direction from posters rather
>>>>>>than
>>>>>>the experts.
>>>>>>Electric cars are one of the solutions to the problems of
>>>>>>petrol-fuelled
>>>>>>cars. Although they are only at a relatively embryonic stage in terms
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>market penetration, electric cars represent the most environmentally
>>>>>>friendly vehicle fuel, as they have absolutely no emissions.
>>>>
>>>>Eric Schild (ericŪ@hardknocks.edu) writes:
>>>>
>>>>>Yes - you just plug 'em in and the electricity from the Big Electricity
>>>>>Man in the sky fuels 'em up
>>>>
>>>>(K): Silly boy ..... you probably believe in the 'man in the moon' and
>>>>fairies with pixie dust, too.
>>>>
>>>>You can fuel automobiles with poisonous emission-producing gasoline and
>>>>oil,
>>>>or you can fuel it with electricity from hydro power and solar power. If
>>>>you think the first is superior to the latter, I recommend you shut
>>>>yourself
>>>>in a garage with the former - and your opponents in a garage with the
>>>>latter.
>>>
>>>
>>>You could, if hydro power and solar power were available in sufficient
>>>quantity to provide the energy necessary to replace even a relatively
>>>small fraction of our current motor vehicles with electrics.
>>>
>>>They're not. So, instead, you get marginal electrical generation having
>>>to be increased: coal-fired plants, natural gas, etc.
>>>
>>>All you're doing is transferring the fossil fuel emissions from one
>>>location to another.
>>
>>
>>
>>This Baker is one pretentious mouth isn't he?
>>I wonder where he expects the increased fuel economy of the hybrids comes
>>from?
>> He has no notion of the increased efficiency of an electric motor
>>as compared to a mechanical motor, in fact the only motor he has
>>familiarity with is his own motor mouth.
>>The Toyota Prius, comparable with a Camery 4, has a mileage of about 48 -
>>50 MPG.
>> The only source of energy is the gasoline used to fire the Echo
>>engine.
>>Ah but I forget, he doesn't claim to be a technician, he claims to be an
>>economist!
>>
>
>
>
> LOL
> Let's see now
>
> 1) Where does the electric motor get it's ELECTRICITY to power it ?
REMARKABLE! You can actually type although you're unconscious.
> Could it be from the coal plant down the road, since there is NO
> hydro-power available ?
> 2) What is the operatinoal life of the batteries in the car ?
> ~5 years
> 3) What is the replacement cost of the batteries ?
> 4) What are the environmental issues, and related costs of disposing of
> the old batteries
>
> When you actually CRUNCH the REAL numbers, your little prius is going to
> cost you a LOT more than you could EVER hope to save.
>
>
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