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From: sd.green@shaw.ca
"Peter White" wrote in message
news:RLAXg.4629$cz.65903@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
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> Alan Baker wrote:
>> In article ,
>> ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon) wrote:
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>>>>>>"penny" wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Who killed the electric car -- a crime of mammoth proportions with
>>>>>>>consequences for our environment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Electric cars produce zero emissions and therefore don't contribute
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>the global warming disaster. They were a key invention in dealing
>>>>>>>with global warming. Yet they have disappeared from the market
>>>>>>>place.
>>>
>>>>>"pcourterelle" (someone@ms.com) writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>ABarlow and Chom have patiently explained why the electric car is
>>>>>>neither an environmentally friendly option for reducing green-house
>>>>>>gases as you claim
>>>
>>>
>>>>>(K): You're kidding. right? Usenet posters have become the definitive
>>>>>experts on the electric car and its viability? You must be a mighty
>>>>>confused little man if you're taking your direction from posters rather
>>>>>than
>>>>>the experts.
>>>>>Electric cars are one of the solutions to the problems of
>>>>>petrol-fuelled
>>>>>cars. Although they are only at a relatively embryonic stage in terms
>>>>>of
>>>>>market penetration, electric cars represent the most environmentally
>>>>>friendly vehicle fuel, as they have absolutely no emissions.
>>>
>>>Eric Schild (ericŪ@hardknocks.edu) writes:
>>>>Yes - you just plug 'em in and the electricity from the Big Electricity
>>>>Man in the sky fuels 'em up
>>>
>>>(K): Silly boy ..... you probably believe in the 'man in the moon' and
>>>fairies with pixie dust, too.
>>>
>>>You can fuel automobiles with poisonous emission-producing gasoline and
>>>oil,
>>>or you can fuel it with electricity from hydro power and solar power. If
>>>you think the first is superior to the latter, I recommend you shut
>>>yourself
>>>in a garage with the former - and your opponents in a garage with the
>>>latter.
>>
>>
>> You could, if hydro power and solar power were available in sufficient
>> quantity to provide the energy necessary to replace even a relatively
>> small fraction of our current motor vehicles with electrics.
>>
>> They're not. So, instead, you get marginal electrical generation having
>> to be increased: coal-fired plants, natural gas, etc.
>>
>> All you're doing is transferring the fossil fuel emissions from one
>> location to another.
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> This Baker is one pretentious mouth isn't he?
> I wonder where he expects the increased fuel economy of the hybrids comes
> from?
> He has no notion of the increased efficiency of an electric motor
> as compared to a mechanical motor, in fact the only motor he has
> familiarity with is his own motor mouth.
> The Toyota Prius, comparable with a Camery 4, has a mileage of about 48 -
> 50 MPG.
> The only source of energy is the gasoline used to fire the Echo
> engine.
> Ah but I forget, he doesn't claim to be a technician, he claims to be an
> economist!
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>>>A simple solution to two problems.... carbon monoxide from the vehicle
>>>and
>>>hot air from a dummy.
>>>
>>>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>>The electric car accelerates so much faster, it makes the Ferrari look
>>>like a bicycle.
>>>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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How nice Peter, but how do you deal with the high costs of production and
maintenance issues?
Electric cars do work, nobody disputes that. The issue is longevity, range
and power production. We do not have a satisfactory solution, yet.
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