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   Message 6,592 of 8,306   
   daestrom to JoeSP   
   Re: Who Murdered the Electric Car?   
   16 Oct 06 19:45:19   
   
   XPost: alt.energy.renewable, bc.politics, can.politics   
   XPost: ont.politics, tor.general   
   From: daestrom@NO_SPAM_HEREtwcny.rr.com   
      
   "JoeSP"  wrote in message   
   news:QeLYg.24451$H7.2445@edtnps82...   
   >   
   > "Spokesman"  wrote in message   
   > news:1LednZvqF7bud63YnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@wightman.ca...   
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   >> "News"  wrote in message   
   >> news:452fad8e$0$97277$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net...   
   >>>   
   >>> "JoeSP"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:L0IXg.61800$E67.36752@clgrps13...   
   >>>   
   >>> > The electricity that powers the electric car was likely produced by a   
   >>> > powerplant that burned fossil fuels.  Because there are so many   
   >>> > inefficiencies and losses along the way, there is actually 2 or 3   
   >>> > times   
   >>> > more pollution produced for every kilometer driven by an electric car   
   >>> > as   
   >>> > compared to an internal combustion engined car.  It's just an illusion   
   >>> > based on an incomplete understanding of the facts.   
   >>>   
   >>> Not so.  75% of the energy in your tank is wasted.  Only about 5% of the   
   >>> energy in a battery pack is wasted. It is far more efficient to pour the   
   >>> fuel in a generators at the power station, inc lines losses, than pour   
   >>> it   
   >> in   
   >>> your car.   
   >>>   
   >>> > Currently the best and most affordable battery for electric cars is   
   >>> > the   
   >>> > lead-acid type, which are very heavy, limit the car's range and   
   >>> > present   
   >> a   
   >>> > disposal problem every few years when they need replacing.  There   
   >>> > simply   
   >>> > isn't enough lead available to replace all the cars with electric   
   >>> > ones.   
   >>>   
   >>> You need to do some reading on modern batteries.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Modern batteries use metals that make lead look like somthing you would   
   >> have   
   >> for lunch.  Very Toxic, very polluting, and extremely hard to clean up if   
   >> the is an accident, fire, stc.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Tut tut...   
   >   
   > Want to spend $100,000 on batteries? That's how.   
   >   
   > Yes, 5% of the energy in a battery is wasted, but you forgot about all the   
   > losses in the transmission lines, transformers and distribution lines.   
   > Considerably more losses than that.   
      
   Care to put a number to it?  One reference that I remember said T&D losses   
   run about 8%, but I can't find it again.   
      
   daestrom   
      
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