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   "daestrom"  wrote in message   
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   >>>> "JoeSP"  wrote in message   
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   >>>> > The electricity that powers the electric car was likely produced by a   
   >>>> > powerplant that burned fossil fuels.  Because there are so many   
   >>>> > inefficiencies and losses along the way, there is actually 2 or 3   
   >>>> > times   
   >>>> > more pollution produced for every kilometer driven by an electric car   
   >>>> > as   
   >>>> > compared to an internal combustion engined car.  It's just an   
   >>>> > illusion   
   >>>> > based on an incomplete understanding of the facts.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Not so.  75% of the energy in your tank is wasted.  Only about 5% of   
   >>>> the   
   >>>> energy in a battery pack is wasted. It is far more efficient to pour   
   >>>> the   
   >>>> fuel in a generators at the power station, inc lines losses, than pour   
   >>>> it   
   >>> in   
   >>>> your car.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> > Currently the best and most affordable battery for electric cars is   
   >>>> > the   
   >>>> > lead-acid type, which are very heavy, limit the car's range and   
   >>>> > present   
   >>> a   
   >>>> > disposal problem every few years when they need replacing.  There   
   >>>> > simply   
   >>>> > isn't enough lead available to replace all the cars with electric   
   >>>> > ones.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You need to do some reading on modern batteries.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Modern batteries use metals that make lead look like somthing you would   
   >>> have   
   >>> for lunch.  Very Toxic, very polluting, and extremely hard to clean up   
   >>> if   
   >>> the is an accident, fire, stc.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Tut tut...   
   >>   
   >> Want to spend $100,000 on batteries? That's how.   
   >>   
   >> Yes, 5% of the energy in a battery is wasted, but you forgot about all   
   >> the losses in the transmission lines, transformers and distribution   
   >> lines. Considerably more losses than that.   
   >   
   > Care to put a number to it?  One reference that I remember said T&D losses   
   > run about 8%, but I can't find it again.   
   >   
   > daestrom   
      
   With a modern EV set: Tesla & Mini the "overall" efficiency is well above an   
   ICE car. The added bonus of the simple EV setup and no pollution in towns   
   and cities.  Also EVs are great to drive.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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