XPost: can.politics, can.general, ont.politics   
   From: springpig@ns.sympatico.ca   
      
   Archie wrote:   
      
   > Peter White wrote:   
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   >>Archie wrote:   
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   >>>Peter White wrote:   
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   >>>>carricks_cat@yahoo.ca wrote:   
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   >>>>>For those old timers who may remember him, just wanted to advise you   
   >>>>>that John Baglow's partner Marianne passed away a few days ago.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>I've been off UseNet for years, and John and I butted heads here quite   
   >>>>>often, but he was always fair, well read and truly interested in what   
   >>>>>you had to say.   
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   >>>>Sorry to hear about Marianne, please forward my condolences to John if   
   >>>>you have contact.   
   >>>>Yes he you and some others are missed for bringing good debate and   
   >>>>information ->  NK   
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   >>>   
   >>>It's strange isn't it, the not so virtual community that develops even   
   >>>though many of us never meet. Even though many of us hadn't met him we   
   >>>feel bad for him and wish him well. At times like this, even those that   
   >>>railed against his political views relate to the human being that he   
   >>>is. Some things we all share in common. >Archie   
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   >>As our technology changes we seem to be able to live in many different   
   >>neighbourhoods at the same time.   
   >>In fact  it is really a case of the ever increasing concentric circles   
   >>of reality that Marx and Hagel speak of.   
   >>Fascinating to watch, if we don't destroy the fucking planet before the   
   >>'rational man' takes control.   
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   >   
   > Marx wrote about the dialectical relationship between technology and   
   > human beings. That human beings shape technology and in turn,   
   > technology shapes human beings and human relationships. Fascinating to   
   > watch indeed. Some of these changes are obviously fantastic, such as   
   > the way people from all corners of the globe can communicate with ease.   
   > Some seem harmful, such as the way technology literally shapes human   
   > bodies as a result of our lack of need of physical activity. It's hard   
   > to imagine what we will be like a hundred years from now. In some ways   
   > we seem better off and in others, worse. Like you say, rational man   
   > better get his shit together - quick. >Archie   
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   But the indications are not encouraging.   
   Take this mundane example, the mention of Baglow did elicit some points   
   worthy of further discussion, but what did it evoke?   
   The school boy weak taunt of Terry Pearson.   
   Most thoughtful people  treat that obsequious nerd by ignoring him in   
   the hope that the noise and static will stop.   
   It doesn't work ..... like ALL bullies Pearson misreads quiet reason as   
   weakness and continues to flail and this causes a flush of similar shit   
   from Sheldon Scot et al.   
      
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