XPost: van.general, bc.politics, can.politics   
   XPost: calgary.general, ab.general, edm.general   
   From: someone@somewhere.net   
      
   Greg Carr wrote:   
   > On Fri, 02 May 2008 00:35:41 GMT, catchme    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> Greg Carr wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:47:38 GMT, David Johnston    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:34:16 GMT, Greg Carr    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> what about the farmers who need labour, and no Canadian to work their   
   >>>>>> fields?   
   >>>>> They should pay more and offer better working conditions.   
   >>>> Farming doesn't have much of a profit margin for the most part.   
   >>> Sell the farm and get a job at 7-11 or the construction industry. All   
   >>> subsidies for this industry and the cattle industry should be   
   >>> eliminated.   
   >>>   
   >> good luck feeding families in the future.   
   >   
   > Use more greenhouses.   
   >   
   >> bad enough that transportation and distirbution costs are driving   
   >> foreign food costs up, you want to see the elimination of cheap domestic   
   >> goods as well?   
   >   
   > The subsidies cost consumers billions of dollars and reward ppl who   
   > are a failure at agribusiness.   
   >   
   >> maybe you look forward to a 40% jump in your grocery bill?   
   >   
   > I haven't noticed any increase in my food costs. A lot of the ppl I   
   > work with are rice eaters and I haven't heard one word of complaint   
   > about rising food prices.   
   >   
   > I'm paying a dollar a cantaloupe   
   >   
      
   get real- subsidies will help farmers stay on their lands in the wake of   
   increased pressures by development.   
   with this unregulated pace at which development is occuring, it will not   
   be long before there is no longer any agriculture left.   
   I for one would like my fruit made in bc- even prior to the rising costs   
   of foreign distribution.   
   and yes, the price of rice, etc. is rising here in Canada- and only in   
   part from a bad winter in Thailand.   
   As the gas prices rise, so too will food costs.   
   many restaurants in vancouver had to raise their prices on average of   
   12% last summer, resulting from food distributors charging a gas levy   
   atop of their grocery bills- but because this fell in roughly the same   
   time as a 2% cut in the gst, coupled with a stronger dollar we havent   
   noticed it as much.   
   This is changing, as our nation's productivity index has slowed with   
   rising energy costs.   
   Although the industry continues to absorb the costs, another price   
   increase is slated to occur within the year.   
      
   think of the country as a huge system dependent upon a vast infrastructure.   
   every piece of this infrastructure that experiences a rising cost, will   
   affect the next.   
   every piece that suffers a shortage, will affect the next.   
   when the costs of foreign goods exceed available incomes, we will fall   
   harder on local products- but if they are developed into condos and high   
   rises, then we will find ourselves in a simliar predicament as many   
   people elsewhere in the world have already.   
      
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   Resist much, obey little,   
   Once unquestioning obedience, once fully enslaved,   
   Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city of this earth,   
   ever after-ward resumes its liberty.   
      
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