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   Dhu on Gate to Oleg Smirnov   
   Re: the Ukraine mess   
   22 Aug 18 09:36:29   
   
   XPost: can.politics, uk.politics.misc, bc.general   
   From: campbell@neotext.ca   
      
   On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:43:05 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:   
      
   > Dhu on Gate,    
   >> On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 02:09:32 +0300, Oleg Smirnov wrote:   
   >   
   >>>> The Aztecs were in North America.  They ate people like you.   
   >>>> You might call it genocide, but from my POV its eugenics.   
   >>>   
   >>> By the way, the Aztecs were in the Spanish area, and it's visible well   
   >>> that in those North-American areas where the Spanish colonization was   
   >>> dominant, the native ethnic component is preserved much better than in   
   >>   
   >> Dumbshit.  Tell me why there's more folk in India or China than Russia....   
   >>   
   >> It has something to do with that white stuff you call sneg: the tundra   
   >> comes a lot further south here in Canada...   
   >   
   > There's much snow in Alaska, as well as the preserved natives.   
      
   All of inland Alaska was Northwest Company territory.   
   You sold land that wasn't yours to sell.   
      
   >   
   > The English area of colonization isn't like a tundra nor like the impassable   
   > taiga among the Siberian permafrost, it's a pretty good and warm climate,   
   > and so the area must have been densely populated before the English arrival.   
   >   
   > If all those people weren't genocided out, then they would be visible today.   
      
   In the 1400s there was a population of close to 2 million around St. Louis.   
   In the 1670s Louis Jolliet and Jacques Marquette went down the Mississippi   
   and there was nothing but wild grapes.   
      
   >   
   >>> the areas where the colonization was led by the English. It is telling.   
   >>> In Alaska, initially colonized by the Russians, it was also preserved.   
   >>   
   >> Tell me about Pugachev, or dozens of similar...  How many people were   
   >> skinned alive in Canada?  Oh, wait.  It was Mowhawks who did the   
   >> shake'n'bake Jesuit trick...  My kin ;-)   
   >   
   > You just show your ignorance about facts once again. Pugachyov had nothing   
   > to do with colonization. He was a bold rebel against the tsardom in the   
   > 1770s, created a short-term quasi-state in the Volga / Urals region.   
   > His militia included Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Shamanists, - of many   
   > different ethnicities, equally unhappy with the tsarist policies.   
      
   Ever hear of Louis Riel?  Canada's Pugachev, but better educated.   
   They just hung him.  Skipped the drawing and quartering.  The @#$%   
   who did it, well, if my name was Hatfield, he'd 'ave been a McCoy.   
      
   >   
   > Also, I don't refer to 'spicy' stories of controversial or unknown origin   
   > but reason on the basis of common sense and easily visible or verifiable   
   > things. I cannot guess about the number of 'skinned alive'. But there's a   
      
   The Mohawks, Wardens of the Eastern Door, regularly baked and peeled captives   
   that didn't cut it as "women's slaves".  That included French Priests.   
      
   > known fact that the N.American natives were subjected to hunt for a reward   
   > from the colonial authorities, - for their scalps. This genocidal practice   
   > existed until the late 19 century, and I can reasonably suspect that quite   
   > many of those scalps had been taken off from people that were still alive.   
      
   Dumbshit.  This isn't the United States.  We had a money-making concern here   
   in Canada that _needed_ the natives as part of the business: the Fur Trade.   
      
   >   
   >>> So, namely the English were the most ruthless, savage and genocidal.   
   >>>   
   >>> Later your smart minders made up the 'deadly epidemic diseases' hoax.   
   >>   
   >> You are sooo full of shit.   
   >   
   > Ignorance and lack of critical thinking is your comfort.   
   >   
   > You just don't feel comfortable outside your cozy bubble. The 'deadly   
   > epidemics' is certainly a hoax. It suddenly turns out to be so-o important   
   > namely for the English colonization, but in other known contacts of remote   
   > groups there's usually nothing of "they entirely died out because of the   
   > diseases".   
      
   They didn't.   
      
   The Sioux and the Iroquois consist of refugees from "the Great Burning".   
   Sitting Bull claimed refuge and protection from "The Long Knives" on the   
   basis of his mother's British Citizenship, and the guns they used to defend   
   themselves came from Canada's Metis and the remnants of our Northwest Company.   
      
   Dhu   
      
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