XPost: can.politics, bc.politics   
   From: Panca@nyet.ca   
      
   > On 2014-12-04 6:23 AM, Barry Bruyea wrote:   
   >   
   >>> Fear monger.  Won't work anymore . . .  Canadians have never struggled so   
   hard   
   >>> financially as they have under your 'low taxes' Conservatives.   
   >>   
   >> Ignoring the economic disaster that is the Province of Ontario is the   
   >> only way you can post such crap. Wynne's government might as well   
   >> change their name to NDP as they are showing the same gross   
   >> incompetence as the last fiasco the province had with left wing   
   >> idiocy.   
      
      
   On 12/4/2014 8:09 AM, Dave Smith wrote:   
   > Most of us probably remember that the Liberals promised no more taxes.   
   > Unfortunately, Dalton's lips were moving when he said that, because we ended   
   up   
   > with HST.  Okay, it was not a new tax and it was not a higher rate of tax. It   
   > just led to provincial and federal taxes being applied to things that only   
   one   
   > or the other had taxed before.  The feds got more money on cigarette money   
   and   
   > we paid provincial taxes on gasoline and home heating fuel.   
      
   Same thing was tried on us in British Columbia . . .  the HST was brought in by   
   the current rightwing government we have here: the so-termed BC 'Liberals'.   
   Only thing that saved us from going the HST route is that we also had a   
   referendum option to overturn any government Act which we didn't agree with.   
   We didn't agree with the HST being foisted on us by Harper and his gang . . . .   
   so it was rejected by referendum.   
      
   All Ontario needs is a new Referendum law.  Get off your asses and get one.   
      
   > Thanks to the lobbying efforts to host the Pan Am games we are now looking   
   at a   
   > minimum half billion dollars for security.  Thank you very much for the   
   honour   
   > of hosting that one.  We should not be lobbying to get the games. We should   
   be   
   > be willing to rent the facilities and charge the games for the cost of   
   security.   
      
   NO games or Olympics have ever brought prosperity to the average citizen or   
   resident of any province.  The only parties who benefit are corporations and   
   those who get subsidies for building the venues.  The taxpayers pay for the   
   disruptions, the losses, and the aftermath cleanups.   
      
   >>>> Surely Canadians, after seeing how the NDP decimated some provinces,   
   >>>> would run like the wind from an NDP government.   
      
   >>> You can only hope . . . .  I know I'll be voting NDP again, and some of my   
   >>> neighbours will be too.  Two for the first time, since they're not   
   enamored by   
   >>> Justin Trudeau.   
      
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