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|    no equivocating here to All    |
|    Snowball's chance in hell . . .    |
|    23 Sep 15 15:52:15    |
      From: brewnoser2@gmail.com              But Justin Trudeau has been known to 'prop up' the Harper Cons on many       occasions. Bill C-51 was the most recent - and was a real 'biggee'.              It's one of the reasons that Canadians should not have a hard time picking an       alternative to the Harper government if they truly want the Cons gone.       ________________________________       CBC News Posted: Sep 22, 2015              Tom Mulcair says not a 'snowball's chance in hell' he'll support Harper       minority              Answering identical questions, NDP and Liberal leaders say no way they'd prop       up a Tory minority government                     Tom Mulcair has joined Justin Trudeau in ruling out any circumstances in which       his party might help prop up Stephen Harper if Conservatives are re-elected       but with only a minority of seats.              "There isn't a snowball's chance in hell," Mulcair said Wednesday.              "I think that anybody who's attended a single question period over the course       of the last several years would be able to tell you that there's no likelihood       that the NDP would, under any circumstance, be able to support Mr. Harper."              Mulcair listed several reasons, including Harper's "divisive politics,"       "backward economics" and inaction on climate change.              If Harper's party has the most seats after the election, Conservatives would       continue to govern. However, it's hard to see how they'd survive confidence       motions or pass a budget given the latest strong words from the leaders of the       other two parties        likely to hold enough seats to broker for power.              At a campaign stop in downtown Montreal on Tuesday, Trudeau also ruled out his       party's help.              "Should Canadians take it for granted that you will automatically vote against       a Conservative speech from the throne?" the Liberal leader was asked.              "I have spent my entire political career [since April 2007 (=_=)       anyway]        fighting against Mr. Harper's narrow and meaner vision of what Canada can be       and what the government should do.              "There are no circumstances in which I would support Stephen Harper to       continue being prime minister of this country," Trudeau said.              If the Conservatives lose a confidence vote, including one on the budget,       there are two options: another party or parties could be asked to form a       government that has enough support to pass confidence votes in the House of       Commons or Canadians could head        back to the polls to reconsider.                     No interest in formal coalition              Trudeau was also asked whether there was any circumstance in which he would       support an NDP government. He didn't directly answer, but suggested he might       support such a government on a case by case, or bill by bill, basis.              "The Liberal Party has always been open in minority situations to working with       other members of the House to pass legislation that serves Canadians," he said.              Trudeau has repeatedly said he is not interested in any formal coalition with       the NDP -- in fact, he has said he is "unequivocally opposed."              In an interview with CBC's chief correspondent Peter Mansbridge, he said the       party that wins the most seats should get the first shot at governing, meaning       if the Tories won the most seats but still only had a minority,       Trudeau wouldn't join forces with the NDP in a formal coalition to topple       Harper.       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^              His comments Tuesday did nothing to contradict that assertion, nor do they       preclude working with the NDP if that party was in power in a minority       situation.              Tom Mulcair, for his part, has suggested in the past he's open to a coalition       with the Liberals. However, he said talks about such an arrangement have       failed, as Trudeau "has slammed the door shut conclusively every time we've       raised that."              "My priority is to get rid of Stephen Harper," Mulcair told Mansbridge in       another interview. "Apparently Justin Trudeau's priority is to get rid of me."                     Harper: If elected, 'I intend to serve'              Harper, meanwhile, has been vocal in denouncing coalitions, saying they are       illegitimate ways to form government. He told Mansbridge that he would cease       to be prime minister if his party comes a close second in the election,       signaling he would not        resort to any procedural tactics to remain in power.              If Harper wishes to campaign against the threat of a NDP-Liberal plot to bring       down a Conservative minority government against voters' wishes -- a rhetorical       flourish and persuasive strategy used to good effect in the past -- Mulcair       and Trudeau's latest        comments provide the sort of proof he needs as ammunition.              At a campaign stop in Winnipeg on Tuesday, he seemed somewhat circumspect       about his own long-term political future. He was asked if he was committed to       leading the Conservative Party for four more years in the event of a majority       government.              "I always say whatever verdict the people deliver, we will respect the       verdict, and obviously if I am elected, I intend to serve."              Serve the whole four years? He didn't explicitly say, at least raising the       possibility he could exit before his term expires.              Video of his response:       http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-coalition-g       vernment-canada-election-party-leaders-1.3238875              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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