XPost: misc.consumers, misc.consumers.house, alt.home.repair   
   From: jwisnia@conversent.net   
      
   George wrote:   
      
   > "Jeff Wisnia" wrote in message   
   > news:FtudnYdhM-MT5V3cRVn-sQ@conversent.net...   
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   >>Dr. Hardcrab wrote:   
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   >>>"Jeff Wisnia" wrote   
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   >>>>When he didn't hear a whistling overfill alarm signal within a couple of   
   >>>>seconds after opening the hose nozzle he should have known something was   
   >>>>wrong and slammed the nozzle closed.   
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   >>>   
   >>>Not all tanks have whistles. Should they? Sure. But, as I said, not all   
   >   
   > do.   
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   >>>   
   >>>The lack of a simple Scully can ruin one's day...   
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   >>Agreed, but in the absence of a whistling tank fill signal the only   
   >>acceptable alternative IMO is to be able to get to the tank and check   
   >>the available volume with the tank gage or by sticking the tank, before   
   >>starting to pump as much as one gallon into it.   
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   > Sounds good but not realistic. Many people are not home and the tanks are in   
   > the basement. which means the delivery guy cannot verify anything and you   
   > typically can't stick an inside tank.   
   >   
   > Also the idea of listening for the whistle will only minimize damage. Modern   
   > oil delivery trucks can pump at 50 gallons or more a minute. So even a quick   
   > "squirt" can put 25 gallons into a basement if someone were to remove a tank   
   > and leave the fill intact.   
      
   True, but one of those reports said 100 gallons went in, and if the   
   delivery guy didn't hear a whistle in the first ten seconds he should   
   have closed the nozzle.   
   >   
   > Most of the blame rests with whoever did the gas install. Even if they   
   > decided to leave the fill lines in place they could have removed the fill   
   > cap and installed a $1.00, 2" black cap so no one could accidently fill.   
      
   I think I'm inclined to lean in that direction and put more of the blame   
   on those gas installers than the delivery guy, because capping or   
   removing the fill line should be SOP.   
      
   But since the reports both said somebody screwed up the street number,   
   it looks like the oil company's gotta pay up. And I hope they cap off   
   that poor guy's fillpipe while they're at it.    
      
   Think we've saucered and blown this one now?   
      
   Jeff   
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   >>Anything less is taking too big a chance, and my sympathies go to any   
   >>fuel oil delivery truck operators who are pushed by their bosses to fill   
   >>the customer's tank "regardless".   
   >>   
   >>Way back when we didn't lust for so much material goods and have so much   
   >>of what we earned confiscated to fund welfare programs most wife's jobs   
   >>were maintaining a proper and nurturing environment for their children.   
   >>So, there was usually someone at home to receive an oil delivery.   
   >>Typically there were two guys with the tank truck, one to go down in the   
   >>basement and watch the tank level, and the other outside to handle the   
   >>hose and nozzle. When the tank was safely full the guy inside would bang   
   >>on the fillpipe with his wrench to signal the guy outside to stop filling.   
   >>   
   >>The development of the whistling signal by Scully in the 30s made   
   >>"unattended delivery" by one operator possible, as access to the tank   
   >>was no longer required in order to make a safe fill. As you pointed out,   
   >>it is a marvelously simple and virtually fail-safe device.   
   >>   
   >>Thanks for the mammaries, and Happy Holidays,   
   >>   
   >>Jeff   
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   >>--   
   >>Jeffry Wisnia   
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   >>(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)   
   >>   
   >>"As long as there are final exams, there will be prayer in public   
   >>schools"   
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   --   
   Jeffry Wisnia   
      
   (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)   
      
   "As long as there are final exams, there will be prayer in public   
   schools"   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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