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   steb to All   
   Oil prices,Stock losses, Violence, Rich    
   22 Jan 08 04:24:37   
   
   XPost: talk.religion.misc, dc.politics, ny.general   
   XPost: la.general   
   From: stenno@yahoo.com   
      
   Oil prices,Stock losses, Violence, Rich versus Poor, Hate, Values , Spread   
   of Nukes, Global Warming, Nutrition,Race and Religious Violence.   
   Whats that say about this world when the country that is suppose to care   
   most about doing the right things , the US, and freedom is now defauting to   
   control and censureship and violence more rules for rich and big business?   
   Do other places have it worse? Absolutely in fact the world is much more   
   insane  but that doesn't make what is   
   happening here anybetter.The selling off of nuke secrets by the paks is   
   inconceivable and this by a so called friend? This will utimately spell   
   disaster for millions of people and the guy who did this is living in   
   luxury.   
   Please send this to all your relatives and friends ( even if they dont' talk   
   to you anymore lol)   
   My email: mcsantpollution@yahoo.com   
      
   I am going to try to shorten my post although its still going to be long.   
   They talk about recession . You know how and when the recession will end in   
   the markets? When the most people get out, thats when the stocks will go   
   back up, Bank on it. if you can that is, cause stocks are ponzi schemes.   
   I wonder why doing the right things often  don't count anymore even in the   
   US..Why around the world, people need to hate based on old stereotypes   
   without rational compromise or determining who has what in terms of   
   percentages of land and people or religion  Because know that  leaders and   
   gov let bad things happen to keep control (Russia and China and Arab Govs)   
   and democracy and freedom to  diminsh. (US)  I wonder why things go haywire   
   and over and over again its because leaders and governments refuse to do   
   what is necessary to assure the common good of people.Even in bad times the   
   rich do very well and control serves its purpose.In the US its often who is   
   set up for pain pollution violence or Big business ripoffs in oil and credit   
   cards etc.   
   In the US my complaints center about the pain and violence coming about   
   because people don't have jobs, because people who are our leaders ignore   
   complaints, like illness from more and more pollution or more and more days   
   without good air. ,  because the rules for the rich keep growing at the   
   expense of doing what is right and the poor.Because more and more, you have   
   to be rich to get elected to office or get a question answered about the   
   cost of inflation or fear of violence or losses in the markets.  Business is   
   good when fair, its bad and contributes  to recession when its unfair.Right   
   now the rules to gouge consumers from utlities , our dependence on oil, and   
   big business interest rates and their influence is not fair   
      
   > I ws told to shorten my message but I urge you to protect your family from   
   real conspiracies. I at least told you and I am not happy having to tell you   
   but someone does. The things going on in America is not all good . So here   
   goes, I am sorry if it sounds too long and drawn out. I seriously believe   
   everything I write about with all my heart.   
      
   There are many conspiracies in the US based on power and control. One can   
   say power and control influences all societies in the positive and negative.   
   One needs to have very powerful allies ( armies often enought) to attain   
   power. How to maintain power and really promote freedom for everyone with   
   equal opportunities for everyone based on our Constitution is the US way or   
   was. If I am wrong I am sure to hear about it. In the rest of the world ,   
   there is no guarantees of freedoms and fairness and this is what makes or   
   made the US great. Now I am afraid, the freedom to control and abuse power   
   has been mandated by the way our elected politicians been elected to power,   
   basically by allot of money. If you need allot of money to come to power   
   your not going to represent all people fairly and while some people can get   
   elected thru hard work and little money most people can't . Politicias  need   
   to be rich  usually to be elected and so if you need to be rich or get   
   special interests to support you, power and government representation is not   
   for the average people its for the rich that need special rules in order   
   often to do the wrong things and maintain power and thats what has been   
   happening in our policies. Big business has been allowed to corrupt our   
   policies. Big business doesn't have to be bad but when you can't maintain   
   power unless you pay someone else off to influence special legislation , the   
   idea for and by the people is trashed in difference to who has the most   
   power.   
   Why has this been allowed to happened and what are the ramifications? News   
   corporations and tv news has been consolidated by fewer and fewer of the   
   same companies and people. The things that need to be examined are swept   
   under the rug so special interest and advertisers who of course have been   
   consoldiating for long time can only get their messages out if only because   
   they have more money and at the worse because the peoople who own the   
   stations might have a tendency to air only certain view points   
   Now here are some of the consequences I see but can't fully prove.We will   
   soon cease to be a democracy or republic with equal representation to all if   
   we have not already lost all that.Here are some consequences.   
    People who can't afford access are seldom heard complaining and are   
   forgotten about even if they number in millions. People who can afford to   
   complain but are the victims of these policies can be ignored because after   
   all big companies can reach more people by paid access . Many people around   
   me complain about limited access and censureship now from our local abc   
   channel six website where the supposidly have message boards and from   
   phillyblog where I routinely am censured. Yahoo use to have free message   
   boards where you could see the meanspirited intention of people who don't   
   trust , much of it misplaced towards hating all people equally for whatever   
   reason. It was a place though at least to hear and show good reason to   
   rationalize things if you could filter out the expressions of   
   frustrations.Yahoo message boards which were national at least showed how   
   frustrated real people are about everyday life. I at least try to show why I   
   am . Its a real great mix if you can maintain greatness and freedom of all   
   and everyone is given equal opportunity but its simply not happening   
   anymore. We live in an informational age so there are many contradictions   
   going on now about what is really happening and what is allowed to happen.   
      
    Pollution and global warming where people are being harmed and not told en   
   mass. Why? Our dependence on dirty energy, diesel and oil and coal has   
   harmed millions of people. People say its always been worse, but yes now we   
      
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