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|    Oil prices,Stock losses, Violence, Rich     |
|    22 Jan 08 04:24:37    |
      XPost: talk.religion.misc, dc.politics, ny.general       XPost: la.general       From: stenno@yahoo.com              Oil prices,Stock losses, Violence, Rich versus Poor, Hate, Values , Spread       of Nukes, Global Warming, Nutrition,Race and Religious Violence.       Whats that say about this world when the country that is suppose to care       most about doing the right things , the US, and freedom is now defauting to       control and censureship and violence more rules for rich and big business?       Do other places have it worse? Absolutely in fact the world is much more       insane but that doesn't make what is       happening here anybetter.The selling off of nuke secrets by the paks is       inconceivable and this by a so called friend? This will utimately spell       disaster for millions of people and the guy who did this is living in       luxury.       Please send this to all your relatives and friends ( even if they dont' talk       to you anymore lol)       My email: mcsantpollution@yahoo.com              I am going to try to shorten my post although its still going to be long.       They talk about recession . You know how and when the recession will end in       the markets? When the most people get out, thats when the stocks will go       back up, Bank on it. if you can that is, cause stocks are ponzi schemes.       I wonder why doing the right things often don't count anymore even in the       US..Why around the world, people need to hate based on old stereotypes       without rational compromise or determining who has what in terms of       percentages of land and people or religion Because know that leaders and       gov let bad things happen to keep control (Russia and China and Arab Govs)       and democracy and freedom to diminsh. (US) I wonder why things go haywire       and over and over again its because leaders and governments refuse to do       what is necessary to assure the common good of people.Even in bad times the       rich do very well and control serves its purpose.In the US its often who is       set up for pain pollution violence or Big business ripoffs in oil and credit       cards etc.       In the US my complaints center about the pain and violence coming about       because people don't have jobs, because people who are our leaders ignore       complaints, like illness from more and more pollution or more and more days       without good air. , because the rules for the rich keep growing at the       expense of doing what is right and the poor.Because more and more, you have       to be rich to get elected to office or get a question answered about the       cost of inflation or fear of violence or losses in the markets. Business is       good when fair, its bad and contributes to recession when its unfair.Right       now the rules to gouge consumers from utlities , our dependence on oil, and       big business interest rates and their influence is not fair              > I ws told to shorten my message but I urge you to protect your family from       real conspiracies. I at least told you and I am not happy having to tell you       but someone does. The things going on in America is not all good . So here       goes, I am sorry if it sounds too long and drawn out. I seriously believe       everything I write about with all my heart.              There are many conspiracies in the US based on power and control. One can       say power and control influences all societies in the positive and negative.       One needs to have very powerful allies ( armies often enought) to attain       power. How to maintain power and really promote freedom for everyone with       equal opportunities for everyone based on our Constitution is the US way or       was. If I am wrong I am sure to hear about it. In the rest of the world ,       there is no guarantees of freedoms and fairness and this is what makes or       made the US great. Now I am afraid, the freedom to control and abuse power       has been mandated by the way our elected politicians been elected to power,       basically by allot of money. If you need allot of money to come to power       your not going to represent all people fairly and while some people can get       elected thru hard work and little money most people can't . Politicias need       to be rich usually to be elected and so if you need to be rich or get       special interests to support you, power and government representation is not       for the average people its for the rich that need special rules in order       often to do the wrong things and maintain power and thats what has been       happening in our policies. Big business has been allowed to corrupt our       policies. Big business doesn't have to be bad but when you can't maintain       power unless you pay someone else off to influence special legislation , the       idea for and by the people is trashed in difference to who has the most       power.       Why has this been allowed to happened and what are the ramifications? News       corporations and tv news has been consolidated by fewer and fewer of the       same companies and people. The things that need to be examined are swept       under the rug so special interest and advertisers who of course have been       consoldiating for long time can only get their messages out if only because       they have more money and at the worse because the peoople who own the       stations might have a tendency to air only certain view points       Now here are some of the consequences I see but can't fully prove.We will       soon cease to be a democracy or republic with equal representation to all if       we have not already lost all that.Here are some consequences.        People who can't afford access are seldom heard complaining and are       forgotten about even if they number in millions. People who can afford to       complain but are the victims of these policies can be ignored because after       all big companies can reach more people by paid access . Many people around       me complain about limited access and censureship now from our local abc       channel six website where the supposidly have message boards and from       phillyblog where I routinely am censured. Yahoo use to have free message       boards where you could see the meanspirited intention of people who don't       trust , much of it misplaced towards hating all people equally for whatever       reason. It was a place though at least to hear and show good reason to       rationalize things if you could filter out the expressions of       frustrations.Yahoo message boards which were national at least showed how       frustrated real people are about everyday life. I at least try to show why I       am . Its a real great mix if you can maintain greatness and freedom of all       and everyone is given equal opportunity but its simply not happening       anymore. We live in an informational age so there are many contradictions       going on now about what is really happening and what is allowed to happen.               Pollution and global warming where people are being harmed and not told en       mass. Why? Our dependence on dirty energy, diesel and oil and coal has       harmed millions of people. People say its always been worse, but yes now we              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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