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   slim wrote:   
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   > "Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )" wrote:   
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   > > slim wrote:   
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   > > > "Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )"   
   wrote:   
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   > > > > Clave wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > "Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )"   
   > > > > >  wrote in message   
   > > > > > news:3FC68C3D.9CA1B12B@backpacker.com...   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > stan@temple.edu wrote:   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > In nj.politics "Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the   
   frontal   
   > > > > > attack )"  wrote:   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > A free Iraq is good for the US and good for Arabs who can see   
   a better   
   > > > > > > > > way in that than the endless strong man dictatorships they   
   have had or   
   > > > > > > > > the fantasy of Sharia extremism.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Oh, you mean like in Saudi Arabia where all but one of the 9/11   
   > > > > > > > terrorists came from?   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > You're boring. Try to come up with something that hasn't been shot   
   down   
   > > > > > > in flames a thousand bloody times.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > What's been shot down?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > The stupid claim that Saudi Arabia is at fault because al Qaeda chose   
   to   
   > > > > use mostly Saudi al Qaeda operatives in the 9/11 attacks. It is fact   
   > > > > that Saudis, pre-9/11, had a much easier time getting into the United   
   > > > > States therefore using them makes logical sense.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Furthermore, it is fact that bin Laden has it in for the Saudi   
   > > > > government and wants to separate them from the United States. There is   
   > > > > no restriction on the countries that al Qaeda can draw from for it   
   > > > > attacks, certainly no restriction on Arab countries.   
   > > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > So you have no VERIFIABLE proof that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11.   
   > > >   
   > > I'm not claiming that Saddam was involved in 9/11. I don't know whether   
   > > he was or not. I know he didn't want to make his links to al Qaeda all   
   > > that obvious. In any case, you have no evidence that Saudi Arabia was   
   > > involved in 9/11, yet you claim just because bin Laden chose to use   
   > > mostly Saudis that that must be the case. Of course that defines logic   
   > > since bin Laden hates the Saudi government and wants to use Saudis to   
   > > cause problems between that government and the US.   
   >   
   > Bin-Laden hated Saddam as a secularist.   
   >   
   This is a wild assertion that you guys just repeat endlessly with no   
   proof. There is at least as much reason for Osama and Saddam to work   
   together as there was for FDR and Stalin in WWII.   
      
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