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   "Clave"  wrote in message   
   news:c86e3c33c0893e17d69d5b263b1497fe@news.teranews.com...   
   > "Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )"   
   >  wrote in message   
   > news:3FC8242E.E34279CF@backpacker.com...   
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   > > Clave wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > "Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack )"   
   > > >  wrote in message   
   > > > news:3FC7D791.DD7DE510@backpacker.com...   
   > > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Clave wrote:   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > "Bill Bonde ( the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal   
   attack )"   
   > > > > >  wrote in message   
   > > > > > news:3FC7A0A0.BC567EFF@backpacker.com...   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > <...>   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > I'm not claiming that Saddam was involved in 9/11. I don't know   
   > whether   
   > > > > > > he was or not. I know he didn't want to make his links to al   
   Qaeda all   
   > > > > > > that obvious. In any case, you have no evidence that Saudi   
   Arabia was   
   > > > > > > involved in 9/11, yet you claim just because bin Laden chose to   
   use   
   > > > > > > mostly Saudis that that must be the case. Of course that defies   
   > > > > > > logic...   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > It defies the truth too.  He never claimed any such thing.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > Let's see what I said and his response:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > #begin quote   
   > > > > > > The stupid claim that Saudi Arabia is at fault because al Qaeda   
   chose   
   > to   
   > > > > > > use mostly Saudi al Qaeda operatives in the 9/11 attacks. It is   
   fact   
   > > > > > > that Saudis, pre-9/11, had a much easier time getting into the   
   United   
   > > > > > > States therefore using them makes logical sense.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Furthermore, it is fact that bin Laden has it in for the Saudi   
   > > > > > > government and wants to separate them from the United States.   
   There is   
   > > > > > > no restriction on the countries that al Qaeda can draw from for   
   it   
   > > > > > > attacks, certainly no restriction on Arab countries.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > So you have no VERIFIABLE proof that Iraq had anything to do with   
   9/11.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > #end quote   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Notice that no claim that Saddam was directly involved in 9/11 was   
   made   
   > > > > by me. Bringing one up is a strawman which proves both of you have   
   no   
   > > > > brains.   
   > > >   
   > > > Interesting that you don't quote *him* saying what you're arguing   
   against.   
   > > >   
   > > How far back do we have to go? Bush didn't say that Saddam was directly   
   > > involved in 9/11. Claiming so is a strawman argument.   
   >   
   > He didn't claim that Saudi Arabia was "responsible" either.  That was   
   *your*   
   > strawman.   
   >   
   > Jim   
   >   
   >   
      
   Poor Clave, no more quagmire, no more poor economy.   
      
   What's a poor, irrelevant sadsack to do?   
      
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   -so, are the days of our lives."   
      
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